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Quoted from MightyMe

Vinland’s performance
Matches taken from http://logs.tf/profile/76561197997659251
From 6 March 2013 untill 17 April 2013
Wins: 12 33%
Draws: 5 14%
Losses: 19 53%
Total: 36 100%

Notes:
10 Losses vs premiership teams
5 Losses vs low div1 and div2 team
4 wins vs low div1 and div2 team (33%)
7 wins vs div1 team (58%)
1 win vs prem team (8%)

Logs from each game:
http://pastebin.com/2eRfGw9N

Looking at the screenshots submitted, half of this information is clearly false.

Quoted from Permzilla

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Looking at the screenshots submitted, half of this information is clearly false.

Not sure if retarded or just trolling?

Obviously not all matches that they have played appear on logs.tf, but out of the 36 that i looked at those are the stats.

Quoted from Permzilla

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Okay sure you’re probably right, that could possibly be the correct information for uploaded logs. But it doesnt give a good representation of the screenshots submitted.

No but it probably gives a better indication of the actual games they played, losses and all.

Quoted from ilike2spin

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No but it probably gives a better indication of the actual games they played, losses and all.

Sure but no one submits screens of them losing, so we can’t compare losing screens really.

Quoted from Permzilla

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Sure but no one submits screens of them losing, so we can’t compare losing screens really.

I dont really care if vinland have to play the playoff or not, I’m pretty sure that they would win them anyway, but, your argument is really backwards here. Isn’t the whole point of submitting screens to provide relatively reliable and hard to fake proof of a team’s performance? Aren’t logs doing the exact same thing? Aren’t people now providing you with this reliable proof of performance?

forsaken idi nahuy

Quoted from MightyMe

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Sending in screenshots allows you to make a selection of what you want the admins to see.
Looking at logs allows you to see the performance of the team of every single match that had logs stats enabled, regardless of the results.

Example:
Vinland beat broder 3-2, they probably send a screenshot of that.
But what you can’t see in screenshots, is this:
3-2 win: http://logs.tf/19781
1-6 loss: http://logs.tf/19521
0-5 loss: http://logs.tf/19518

So yeah, obviously you are right. Screenshots give a much better representation of the teams performance…. /sarcasm

I didn’t say that, please read again. Basically you are comparing vinland’s win/losses without looking at the other teams win/losses. You need the same basis to reliably compare the teams.