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Quoted from d2m

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I wasn’t :/

I put a safety heart.

Quoted from Koeitje

I see the etf2l admin team as a community council, there are players from all divisions in there. Its just too bad that the 2 prem admins have different opinions about the future of the game than the div1-prem teams.

In a council if the majority are unhappy with their representative they could vote someone else in (the etf2l admin that agreed with you quit when he didn’t get his own way), but I agree with you the current etf2l admin team represents players from different divisions.
They came to a decision regarding maps/unlocks/rules you disagree with, so I can see why you’d be against a council

Quoted from Koeitje

The rest of the admins are from lower divisions, and do not really have the insight to comment on, rules, maps and unlocks.

You mean the disagree with you? Can we move away from people not in top x division don’t understand game mechanics, you don’t even have to play the game to understand its mechanics

Quoted from Koeitje

The effect of this is that a community council just doesn’t work. But luckily we still have ESL :).

Have fun in ESL

Quoted from Tikcus

You mean the disagree with you? Can we move away from people not in top x division don’t understand game mechanics, you don’t even have to play the game to understand its mechanics

:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
OH MY FUCKING GOD
Fuck you. :D

You really have no fucking idea how this game is played and seems you are quite likely mentally retarded as well. There are so many aspects to this game and it’s mechanics on the top level you could never even dream of.

Jesus H Christ.

Quoted from Tikcus

You mean the disagree with you? Can we move away from people not in top x division don’t understand game mechanics, you don’t even have to play the game to understand its mechanics

you kind of need to play the game to understand its mechanics beyond the most basic ones (run forward kill people (c) gideon), derp

Quoted from Swarlz

Can we not even begin to debate if or not lower divisions have the same understanding of the game compared to those in higher divisions? It’s like debating if gravity exists or not, the point in this thread is to discuss voting which will stop these pointless shitstorms

+1

Quoted from AnimaL

same ppl

new thread

I would just like to point out I created this thread not in an attempt for another 24page rage fest. That is why I didnt use a specific topic in creating this thread. What I am trying to point out is that ETF2L claim to be all for the community and allow voting and listen to their community but they don’t. If they did we would avoid the massive threads of rage hate and stupidity that are commonplace now on ETF2L, the very threads I believe you are refering to.

Quoted from AnimaL

[…]thats not etf2l that has claimed it

its observation from top teams that etf2l doesnt give a shit about them and they only want money from multiplay for attracting pubbers

“It is this league’s intent to provide the TF2 community with a league for clans that is run by the clans that support it.”

Edit*

Did you even read the OP?

These threads wil never work. The top players all think that etf2l is pandaring to the pubbers, and the lower players all think that etf2l only cares about the top players. Face it, if you’re one of group A go to ESL, if you’re one of group B stay here.