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Quoted from demsii
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GRU, TDH and FaN are bad because.. ?
As I said on many occasions before .. if they were really so overpowered, I’m sure everyone would use them .. Which is quite funny cuz when people use them, I usually see them fail a lot with it .. bar a few players.
Though banning the TDH doesn’t matter too much as no one really plays with it anyway and if they do they get burned to death for some reason. (God forbids change.) But with a lot of new weapons coming out once again, I don’t really see how we can keep on banning everything. Sooner or later we will have to succumb to change unlock-wise if you want to grow as a league as attracting new players with a zillion unlocks banned will become harder and harder.
I’m curious what etf2l is going to decide about the natasha now it’s been nerfed .. :)
GRU being overpowered must be the biggest joke I’ve heard though .. it actually speeds up gameplay if you’re a heavy, while this game is already quite slow.
Oh and yes ban all da cheaterz ;]
Maps weren’t too bad except for obscure (slow as fuck, too much pushing forward and pushing back shit without anyone deciding the map) and playing it twice in a row official-wise made me cringe. There’s enough new maps around, maye give a look @ those?
THIS
2 scattergun
1 fan
1 shortstop
2 rocket launcher
1 direct hit
2 black box
1 rocket jumper
1 flamethrower
1 backburner
2 decreaser
1 grenade launcher
1 1minigun
0 natascha
1 shotgun
1 frontier justice
0 syringe gun
0 blutsauger
0 sniper riffle
1 huntsman
2 sydney sleeper
1 revolver
2 big kill
2 ambassador
4 letranger
0 pistol
2 lugermorph
0 bonk
2 crit a cola
12 mad milk
0 shotgun
2 buff banner
2 gunboats
1 battalions backup
2 flaregun
0 sticky bomb launcher
2 sticky jumper
2 scottish resistance
12 chargin targe
1 dalakohs bar
0 sandvich
2 wrangler
0 medigun
0 kritzkrieg
0 submachine gun
1 razoerback
2 jarate
0 darwing danger shield
0 sapper
1 bat
1 sandman
2 holy mackerel
1 shovel
4 equalizer
1 frying pan
0 fire axe
1 axtinguisher
1 homewrecker
2 powerjack
0 bottle
0 pain train
3 eyelander
6 scotsman skullcutter
0 fists
0 kgb
2 gru
1 wrench
0 golden wrench
1 gunslinger
0 soujther hospitality
1 bonesaw
2 ubersaw
0 vitasaw
0 kukri
2 tribalmans shiv
1 bushwacka
0 knife
0 your eternal reward
0 horseless headless horsemanns headtaker
0 build
0 disguise kit
0 taunts
1 claidheamohmor
2 back scratcher
1 boston basher
2 fists of steel
1 amputator
2 crusaders crossbow
1 ullapool caber
2 loch-n-load
1 buffalo steak sandvich
2 brass beast
1 warriors spirit
2 candy cane
1 jag
If anyone is seeing the real reason behind this list, good for him.
The GRU is ridiculously OP in conjunction with the Buffalo Steak Sandvich – if you eat the sandvich whilst frozen in spawn, then you can get to mid just slower than the scoutsa (because you run at scout speed).
Quoted from Wabbeh
The GRU is ridiculously OP in conjunction with the Buffalo Steak Sandvich – if you eat the sandvich whilst frozen in spawn, then you can get to mid just slower than the scoutsa (because you run at scout speed).
Should be one or the other.
Don’t even get me started on these gloves of steel – 450 hp and 60% less ranged damage :x. He can literally run up to the medic and melee him.
Quoted from demsii
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GRU, TDH and FaN are bad because.. ?
As I said on many occasions before .. if they were really so overpowered, I’m sure everyone would use them .. Which is quite funny cuz when people use them, I usually see them fail a lot with it .. bar a few players.
Though banning the TDH doesn’t matter too much as no one really plays with it anyway and if they do they get burned to death for some reason. (God forbids change.) But with a lot of new weapons coming out once again, I don’t really see how we can keep on banning everything. Sooner or later we will have to succumb to change unlock-wise if you want to grow as a league as attracting new players with a zillion unlocks banned will become harder and harder.
I’m curious what etf2l is going to decide about the natasha now it’s been nerfed .. :)
GRU being overpowered must be the biggest joke I’ve heard though .. it actually speeds up gameplay if you’re a heavy, while this game is already quite slow.
Oh and yes ban all da cheaterz ;]
Maps weren’t too bad except for obscure (slow as fuck, too much pushing forward and pushing back shit without anyone deciding the map) and playing it twice in a row official-wise made me cringe. There’s enough new maps around, maye give a look @ those?
In season 9 there will be a batch of polycount weapons, in season 10 there will be xmas update weapons, simple as that.
As medic, i cant say the vita saw is OP, the -10 hp bonus makes you more vurnerable and you only get 20% ubercharge after you died first. The new healbow isnt OP too, you get +1 regen rate and a xbow u need to aim for to heal/hit anyone, also the needle gun is much more powerfull imo.
I’m also 100% sure GRU will be allowed in S9, 75% chance on shortstop, blackbox and your eternal reward.
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Quoted from Martn
As medic, i cant say the vita saw is OP, the -10 hp bonus makes you more vurnerable and you only get 20% ubercharge after you died first. The new healbow isnt OP too, you get +1 regen rate and a xbow u need to aim for to heal/hit anyone, also the needle gun is much more powerfull imo.
Needle gun is better hands down, but if the set is allowed I’ll be changing to it completely, +1hp regen is worth it.
Quoted from demsii
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GRU being overpowered must be the biggest joke I’ve heard though .. it actually speeds up gameplay if you’re a heavy, while this game is already quite slow.?
As far as I can tell, the GRU would actually slow down gameplay when you consider the bigger picture. GRU being allowed would mean heavy was more played, and whilst the GRU makes the heavy move physically faster, the effect on the pace of the game as a whole is simply that the heavy can get into a position in which it can slow down the game a lot more quickly. Once he’s done his jog, it’s just the same old heavy routine. If anything it’s even worse because his increased mobility results in the further decreased mobility of the opposing team.
Quoted from octochris
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Needle gun is better hands down, but if the set is allowed I’ll be changing to it completely, +1hp regen is worth it.
Stathats will be banned 4 evah.
Just as xmas crate only items.
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I don’t have the time to read all the stuff you linked, but thanks for doing that.
I’ll read this as soon as i have time and i’ll try to give my 2 cents. :)
there should be an admin day where we shower the admins in sexual favours especially blow jobs
Quoted from Martn
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Stathats will be banned 4 evah.
Just as xmas crate only items.
you don’t need hat for medic set :)
Quoted from Lynn
I don’t know about you Demourge, but maps where it’s a constant game of pushing back and forth, where a round can last 10 minutes without any standoffs or turtling, are the most fun to me :)
Also … wth is wrong with the Gunslinger? :P
No, you don’t know about me.. 30 mins of 0-0 is not my definition of fun I’m afraid.
The GRU is ridiculously OP in conjunction with the Buffalo Steak Sandvich – if you eat the sandvich whilst frozen in spawn, then you can get to mid just slower than the scoutsa (because you run at scout speed).
Without proper testing of this in actual gameplay, it’s too soon to talk about the Buffalo Steak Sandvich. Not to mention, we’re only talking about just the GRU here.
As medic, i cant say the vita saw is OP, the -10 hp bonus makes you more vurnerable and you only get 20% ubercharge after you died first. The new healbow isnt OP too, you get +1 regen rate and a xbow u need to aim for to heal/hit anyone, also the needle gun is much more powerfull imo.
Vita-saw is only useful if you die a lot with a lot of über .. which should make you consider playing something else maybe or getting better players around you to protect you.
As far as I can tell, the GRU would actually slow down gameplay when you consider the bigger picture. GRU being allowed would mean heavy was more played, and whilst the GRU makes the heavy move physically faster, the effect on the pace of the game as a whole is simply that the heavy can get into a position in which it can slow down the game a lot more quickly. Once he’s done his jog, it’s just the same old heavy routine. If anything it’s even worse because his increased mobility results in the further decreased mobility of the opposing team.
Wrong, in the past heavy has been accepted as means of playing the game (look at Exoronic, Riemu, sommie, Pace that played in higher div teams). Also he is just slightly slower than the medic with the GRU, the pace of the game doesn’t become slower because your medic doesn’t rj or stickyjump as fast as your soldiers/demo, does it? Promoting another class to be played competitive would add to versatility and different tactics sure, but I was mainly pointing towards maps where heavy is generally more accepted (gullywash and freight for example).
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Quoted from demsii
Without proper testing of this in actual gameplay, it’s too soon to talk about the Buffalo Steak Sandvich. Not to mention, we’re only talking about just the GRU here.
We used it in a mix yesterday on Freight, and our Heavy got to mid at about the same timne as the scouts, and I’m confident that that was the reason for our win (although we were better, we just rolled every mid with this heavy (HAI DITCHY!))
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