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You got a problem of numerous good players who cant be bothered to come together to form clans, they also cant be bothered to join lower clans and help them improve, they’d rather not even play in clans unless they get themselves into a division-one or division-two clan. This is probably unlikely to change during the run up to season four.

So in effect you have less really good clans, you have a larger skill gap and as the season gets under way you will some of those existing good clans folding leaving even less competition as the season draws to an end – as was the case in prior seasons.

There is room for more teams at the highest levels, there are players looking to join these teams as soon as they are created – its unlikely to make division two any weaker. Take Deliverance for example, will the creation of Deliverance using many of these clanless players who want to play in div2 or higher make division-two weaker next season?!

Agree with Fragga tbh. Too many players set their sights far too high, especially those from middle Div 4, who say they are looking for teams of Div 3A/B minimum (I have issues with players who say they won’t drop below div 2 -_- ). The sudden amount of players calling themselves mid is also shocking, considering lots of them have not played for considerable amounts of time in mid skilled clans. There’s no shame in saying that you’re generally low+, and at times pushing mid.

The team I play for was formed from scratch, from pretty much unknown players, and it’s taken a reasonable amount of time, but now we’re getting some good results going down, consistently. Part of the fun is building up a team, and lots of the clanless upper division 3 / lower division 2 ex-players could form some really good teams. At the moment tho, there seems to be an expectation that such teams will instantly be very good because most of the playesr are individually very skilled.

Unfortunately, this is TEAM Fortress 2, and it takes time to play well together, because you have to learn how each of your teammates play, their strengths and weaknesses, and what works best. The more teams that put this effort in, and become established and secure clans that won’t fold at the first hurdle (because they’re used to losing initially), the better the competitive scene, and the more interest we’ll get from MGOs and sponsors.

Also the skill in div3 is like way spread out, if you can compete with div2 clans it’s like 2-3 good games the entire season if you’re lucky. That just fails to motivate and I’d say decrease activity and may kill of upcoming clans. Just look at the number of dropped teams in div3.

well , if the division 1 keep 10 teams , it’s not a bad idea .

couldnt agree more.. the teams out there calling themselves mid is shocking. when played against it most likely always results in a rape… there fooling thereselves and the opponents team. wich is not good.

there simply arent enough div 1 teams around .. hell there arent even enough div2 teams around in the div 2 in season 4 so why the hell would you open extra slots in an exclusive division???