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No i admit i was stupid and tried a cheat in cs 1.6 2 years ago. cant see how it has anything to do with tf2 and competetive gaming tho..

that’s what most here think too. Nice to hear an answer, i guess that explanation will come from the others too :D
also WooD: dont even ask about that, tf2 cheats are GHEY ;)

if you can get on a pub tf2 server that’s vac secured you will be ok, however if we find any cause of concern from any of the listed players we will be requesting in-eye demos so keep them at hand please lads

Agron: If they would have been vacced in CSS, they wouldn’t be playing TF2 with that account.

Ok, I admit that i’m pretty much clueless when it comes to VAC’s workings.

Anyhoo, my point was that saying “once a cheater, always a cheater” – rhetoric is pointless. We don’t know anything about the “incidents”. There’s a difference with getting vac-banned for trying a hax while drunk because you’re friends told you to and using a hax for a longer time in clan play etc.

So let’s not get our panties in a twist over something that’s pretty trivial for the tf2 scene. (and reading the admin replies it seems etf2l won’t either which is good)

I read those 3 comments made by delonge etc. and i agree with them. There’s just no way to know the circumstances in which the haxing happened. As they said too, it might not have even been the current owner of the account who haxed. Trading steam accounts is pretty common. for example I shared my steam account for years with my brother. He’s a lsoulless sob and let’s presume he used haxs in a game without me knowing about it. Should i and the teams i play in be punished about that by etf2l/esl etc.?

So all in all publishing ppls names in a thread like this is just _useless_ unless you can prove they cheated in tf2.

Lot of people don’t know what they are talking about, so:

1) Yes there was a Steam Community updates which NOW display if people were VAC Banned or not, you could have been VAC Banned in 2005, and it just shows after yesterday Steam Community update. You can check Steam Forums, they are talking about that update.

2) VAC1 is dead a long long time ago. VAC1 is dead in July-August 2005 (not sure about the month, maybe it was march), and it NOT used in any games NOW. Even HL1 engine games were replaced by VAC2. All VAC1 Bans were 1 year on Steam (the delay used to be 2-5 years on Won or early Steam). So ALL VAC1 bans were reversed.

Since VAC2 in 2005, all VAC bans are permanent.

ATM you can’t know from which games they are banned, and a lot of players are banned from HL1 games a long long time ago, ban a lot of people because they cheated on a different game? No.

EDIT:

VAC Bans are per engine like many people said.

You were banned because you cheated on any HL1 Engine games, you’ll be banned on ALL HL1 engine games. Same for HL2.

Such a silly reply raccoon, there is no way you can compare a singleplayer AOE game with 1.6, especially not when you play it at a (high) competitive level. Tho, if it can be proved the bans all took place a couple of years ago, i dont see the point in banning these players when they have “done nothing wrong” whilst playing tf2.

Also, id like you to notice that people from division 5 (or w/e division beneath your clan) or of any age also have the right to share their opinions. There is no reason for you to act all agressive because tuna obv isnt the player who is VAC banned.

Raccoon, that was neither intelligent nor polite. In fact, it was (.) and rude.

What has the Div to do with ones opinion? Oh dear 1337-pro-god-player, please hear me out, I have a humble suggestion to make … is that how your world works?
Sorry, but you sure are in for a hard awakening.

euhm lol?

i cheated 5years ago 1 time in cs?
whats the problem now?