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Some people need to remember TFC way back in the olden days.. Popularity with broad audience = 0,0000001

They dont want to see boring tactics that they dont understand, hell even the QuadV guys don’t know what they’re talking about.

But people that dont know the game want to see action, cool moves, ENTERTAINMENT!

Teamplay is ofcourse the roots of the TFx series and it will always be like that, but u can never use it as a means to reach a broad audience cause most will be bored to death.

Example: Who accually likes watching an hour of hardcore CS on sourcetv or whatever when you can watch an AVI action packed with headshots and 5 in a row kills..

I’m all for this project, just don’t over-use the power.

Why do some ppl think that mvp’s AS idea and a allstar-clan cup exclude eachother? Why cant both happen? Eh?

Wlv, how bout you fly to the non tf2 servers to promote a tf2 “pro-cup” that you and Drew are obviously just itching to start….gogogogo

non tf2 servers = non tf2 sites

stupid forums need an edit button… :/

To be honest, you’re kidding yourself if you don’t recognise that this started out as nothing more than an ego trip. It’s true that some of the best players in TF2 are indeed playing, but this game does nothing to showcase the amazing unique team quality of TF2, its strongest selling point.

I don’t give a crap about it really, if people want to play in this they will. Just don’t expect me to be silling furtively in front of my monitor watching quadv with a box of kleenex and some baby oil :D

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Oh and another thing, I really don’t care that I’m not playing, I don’t rate myself the BEST HEAVY IN EU ROFFLES…..and as I already said on page one, most of the lineups I don’t disagree with.

Christ, if you’re going to flame me, atleast read what I’ve said!

ah ok Wlv, i just read your “gogogo” message as a bickering FU to mvp’s idea. If that wasn’t the case, then apologies. And I based my “i guess Wlv. just wanted to play and is angry because he won’t be” pretty hastily upon Drew’s behaviour. Again my bad for generalizing.

Serious question though: if we already have those “pro-leagues”, why does Drew bother to suggest a creation of another to substitute mvp’s idea? And do you really think this match will actually harm the community in some way?

angora, upon what do you base your “you must be blind/stupid whatever if you dont recognize this as an egotrip”? Eh? Because you, who is according to wai “the best demo in the world” (source, wai’s public ownage vid in youtube), happen to think so? heh, well unfortunately your opinion on the matter doesnt really weigh more than anyone elses. And i guess noone expects you to watch the game if you dont want to. But you should also realise that noone really cares whether you watch it or not.

wai, tbh everyone who’s not on the list will say “i don’t care if I dont play”, it’s a basic ego protective reaction to not being included in something exclusive. Some might actually mean it, but others don’t. Hard to tell the difference between the sincere and not sincere because we’re not actually having a discussion face to face.

heh, angora :D

11-1? wasnt it 7-1? :/

heh anyways, i’m kinda tired of this pointless flaming, so i wont comment anymore on that :P

(oh and just realized wai isnt waizer, so yeah, I fail above) :P

Could you drop the whole mvp issue, everyone knows that’s just his way of doing things. At least he’s doing something, instead of just crying out loud on forums and IRC about how bad this whole initiative is. Start your own All Star game or whatever you want to call it and let the community vote. mvp’s “ego” is doing way more for the community than anything you’ve done.