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Thanks for all of the information surrounding this part of cp_badlands. It is very helpful for us to know when things unexpectedly change in maps and content, and we really appreciate you bringing this to our attention.

The mix up here is that we changed the collision on the widow to be solid in the CP version of this map in late 2008, and have been using this version of the map internally since then – Internally it appeared as if no recent changes had been made to that geometry. However, these changes were never updated to players. When we shipped the map with the recent update, these old fixes as well as the new ones made their way to players.

For now, we would like to monitor how these changes settle as the intent is for that window to not be a player passable space.

Thanks again,
-cAyle

http://www.teamfortress.com/?tab=updates

General:
– Fixed Quick-Fix infinite heal exploit
– Fixed missing Cow Mangler 5000 particles when running in DirectX8
– Fixed Disco Beat Down unusual effect showing through walls
– Fixed incorrect projectile speed attributes being applied to giants in Mann vs. Machine
– When disguised as a teammate, the Dead Ringer will drop the body of the player the Spy is disguised as
– Fixed a bug where arrows and bolts would hit friendly players
– Fixed a bug where Strange parts and filters could not be removed from Strange weapons
– Fixed the “Show Entire Backpack” option in the crafting panel not preserving empty backpack slots and forcing items to stack

Maps:
– Fixed an areaportal improperly rendering in pl_goldrush
– Fixed players getting out of map in cp_standin
– Fixed players hiding in vents in cp_standin
– Adjusted HDR lighting in cp_process

Fucks given by Vavle = 0.

no more badlands middle sticky traps either :(

Limp, no need to be a faggot.

Quoted from Andee

Can someone explain to a non-mapper, what the map changes basically mean? Collision stuff etc?

Basically you can’t jump through the window anymore yet you can shoot through it, however, you can’t shoot through window’s panes, stickies will just stick to it and rockets will explode in your face.

Quoted from derdotte

its so sad that they did this stuff even the rollout for demo got a lot harder now with the stair jump just because they do not want to have invisible sticky traps.
instat of using a invisible block texture and put it in front of the prop they could have used func_physbox_multiplayer to prevent shooting stickies into the props but would not effect the demo rollout because you can just walk though it.
func_physbox_multiplayer explandation: (you should know every basic and some advanced stuff about mapping!!!)sdk wiki
i cant really do it now because i dont have time and i think its already been working on a pro version of badlands.

The kaidus jump™ still works. Haven’t tested other jumps yet.
The two doorways in front of the small medpack were the best sticky trap that ever existed. Works everytime (if you know when and how to use it) and you get the medic and might even get the demo or the pocket or both as a bonus (Hi reverto, nice drop btw).

Quoted from Nick

since most soldiers are not capable of jumping out of the window properly it’s not a shame at all

:(

Quoted from derdotte

its so sad that they did this stuff even the rollout for demo got a lot harder now with the stair jump just because they do not want to have invisible sticky traps.
instat of using a invisible block texture and put it in front of the prop they could have used func_physbox_multiplayer to prevent shooting stickies into the props but would not effect the demo rollout because you can just walk though it.
func_physbox_multiplayer explandation: (you should know every basic and some advanced stuff about mapping!!!)sdk wiki
i cant really do it now because i dont have time and i think its already been working on a pro version of badlands.

DOTTE IN ACTION!!

shit developers = shit game

not the other way around ;)