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Granary is boring. It doesn’t matter at what skill level you play, in most games the game itself comes to a halt. It is too blocky, too choke point-y. From mid to second you got exactly two easily spammable chokepoints (not counting the rarely taken and risky dropdown) that can be surveyed from the same holding positions. Yard is too big; often after pushing it, you have to repush after waiting for another uber; it’s like a 7cp map. Not to mention the midfights where playing medic is a total nightmare due to way too many hiding spots and far too easy jump-in possibilities.
I don’t like the map and would be happy to see it go or given even less playtime

Bring Gravelpit back

granary is great

oh, granary_pro should replace the regular version imo

Quoted from Cauthon

Bring Gravelpit back

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Granary is a OK map, not bad but not excellent either… It was the first map I really felt comfortable playing at lower levels, but the higher skilled players I play on it, the more difficult the map becomes for me. That mid is a demo’s nightmare and a soldier’s playground…

Anyway, I think granary is a bit slower than the other maps because all 3 points areas are huge, that really affects how the map meta works. Mid is huge, second(with yard included) it’s even bigger and last it’s big as well..

The reason I think other maps work better is because they never have more than 2 big areas… Snake has a big last, but mid makes up for it. Gully is great because it’s very compact overall, badlands last compensates for the entire map.

Probably Process is the slowest map after granary because it has a huge last and mid area.

It’s an awesome map because of his history, but the map mechanics are not great overall. I feel it would work wonders with a smaller second point area tho (like process but maybe even smaller).

Quoted from nTraum

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yes, it’s shit and boring. but americans think it’s cool.

I think viaduct_pro is awesome :[

It’s everything but boring lol, almost no stalemates

cp_granary_pro ??