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I can see the benefits and possible fun stats you can get out of it. For instance, player of the season can be based on the log stats instead of circlejerks. And it motivates individual players and teams to outdo themselves if they need additional damage, to become the best scout/soldier/medic of their division. It would be easier to spot upcoming talent too. But it will be one hell of a project for ETF2L… Maybe nice summer project for a happy talented programmer, when things are slow.

Quoted from Jarppa

[…]Yes, SteamID’s are shown in the logs.

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Then how the fuck is it easier to fake a log than a screenshot?

A screenshot can easily be doctored, only the devs on logs.tf have that kind of power over a log.

Quoted from crouton

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Then how the fuck is it easier to fake a log than a screenshot?

A screenshot can easily be doctored, only the devs on logs.tf have that kind of power over a log.

Yeah, editing some steam-ids and dates takes a dramatic amount of knowledge.

Quoted from crouton

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Then how the fuck is it easier to fake a log than a screenshot?

rofl.. you just change numbers in the .log and upload it… thats all it takes…

http://logs.tf/13003 in like 2min

Quoted from Starkie

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Fair point actually, but the time & date would have to sync up so it wouldnt be as easy as youre making out

the idea of having logs actually isnt bad, but etf2l would need to parse the logs with logaddress_add instead of ppl uploading their own, then it would be great

same as in esea

Quoted from AnimaL

[…]the idea of having logs actually isnt bad, but etf2l would need to parse the logs with logaddress_add instead of ppl uploading their own, then it would be great

same as in esea

That’s exactly what I’m saying, the best option would be a plugin that directly uploads logs and match results to etf2l, but that wouldn’t be easy to code I guess.

An oficial plugin for etf2l that is mandatory on all servers for official matches, that plugin would ensure the config and whitelist was always right, it could upload logs and results to etf2l and even keep a track of who’s a merc and who’s not, Idk, but the potential sounds amazing.

Quoted from ondkaja

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So, instead of catching cheaters you think ETF2L admins should spend their time on making you able to upload logs? Not only is this EXTREMELY useless, it is also a breach of integrity as the log files contain chat messages from the game. But let’s have it your way, let’s have hackers running around freely because the admins are spending time coding this useless crap instead of watching POV demos. I don’t want to accuse anyone of anything, but perhaps that’s the entire idea of it; YOU want the admins to be busy while you’re installing some kind of shady plug-in?

Not sure if troll, but that’s kind of a flawed argument…

The AC team and the dev team have an entirely different set of people and abilities, if you want to help catching cheaters I’m sure you can ask the admins to trial as an AC team member, shocky left recently and I heard they don’t have that many people available so maybe you could lend a hand?

I’m not really on par with everything but I’m sure top of the list for the dev team atm would be a complete site design and interface overhaul. After that, the goal should be towards a more professional looking league, and I assume getting some tasks automated would be a great help in that department.

Quoted from kaidus

I don’t really see how anyone could ever hope to get away with faking logs (at least significantly). Can someone posit a scenario where a team can hope to get away with this? I just don’t buy it.

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On a serious note…

Log upload is a not an option without a ETF2L server plugin to ensure log integrity to some degree.

Making log upload mandatory is not an option unless said ETF2L server plugin is required for all matches. Both for the purpose of log integrity and ease of use.

Streaming logs is, again, not an option without a ETF2L plugin. Logs must be snipped to contain only info relevant to matches, and only to valid ETF2L matches – otherwise the server load would be unimaginable.