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+1 for allowing the original.

Again Vanilla :(

Shame would be great to see some other weapons to be allow to maybe see some different plays and interesting plays.

Only left sided viewmodels should be allowed because most people are right handed. It’s too intuitive and easy otherwise.

Quoted from herpderp

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:P

it’s actually quite useful on some jump maps, probably not a big deal in 6s though

Quoted from atmo

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it’s actually quite useful on some jump maps, probably not a big deal in 6s though

The hell is 6s?

Also, gogo for the original!

Vanilla + Medlocks is fine.

Don’t really see a problem with the original either.

As soon as you start entertaining the idea of other unlocks, you’ll have a massive debate over the reasons why X should be allowed and not Y, whereas another opinion will be that X is overpowered in certain circumstances but Y is fine.

Shitstorm.

Quoted from antyjc

BUT IT ISN’T EVEN VANILLA + MEDLOCKS.

WHY IS THE CROSSBOW ALLOWED. WHY IS THE OVERDOES NOT ALLOWED? WHY ARE THE OTHER MEDLOCKS NOT ALLOWED?

SOMEONE GIVE A FUCKING GOOD REASON TO SUPPORT BANNING THE ORIGINAL PLEASE OH MY GOD FUCK.

For fucks sake stop being retarded and see the points other people make…
There doesn’t have to be a reason to ban the original in the first place you let one in you have to review every other unlock aswell. It was said in the first place and it’s been said now just for the love of god it’s not worth it. I couldn’t care less if you play with it or not but it’s just welcoming a whole new shitstorm.

I’m pretty sure the crossbow is allowed because it’s fun to use or something, not because anybody actually sat down to discuss its merits. Maybe some admin could shed some light on the decision to allow it?

Anyway, vanilla + medlocks attempts to restrict the tf2 weapon choice to an era when the game was most balanced does it not? We play with the class limits and weapon selection that we do because it creates the most competitive game we can out of this casual cartoon shooter. The Original completely fits in line with this concept as it’s as pretty much as minor a (while still being meaningful) change to the rocketlauncher as you could probably make. Hell, it should have been included on other projectile weapons as a preference option added from the start. There is simply no decent argument against it other than people who want other, far more debateable unlocks throwing their toys out of the pram to spite others.

So given that vanilla + medlocks has always been a shit name, how about “The Originals”? The original stock weapons, the original unlocks (aka the first batch of medic unlocks) and of course the Original itself. Sorted.