Season 20 powered by Tt eSPORTS: Community Fundraiser & Maps
January 20, 2015
Announcing Season 20 powered by Tt eSPORTS: Fundraiser
We are pleased to announce ETF2L’s first community crowdfunding system for Season 20 powered by Tt eSPORTS. The purpose of this fundraiser is to allow members of the ETF2L community to contribute directly to the Season 20 prize pool and help make Season 20 the biggest yet!
The fundraiser will run throughout the season, with prizes finalised Sunday March 1st. Because of this we cannot promise any exact prizes for tiers until this date. However we can guarantee the minimum prizes for Premiership teams:
Premiership 1st place: €500
Premiership 2nd place: €300
Premiership 3rd place: €200
100% of all donations raised will go towards the Season 20 prize pool, ETF2L will not keep any of the money.
Why should I donate just for the Premiership Players?!
Funds and Items raised through the fundraiser will be used for prizes in all four tiers – Premiership, High, Mid and Open. Prizes for everyone! Clearly we do not know exactly how much will be raised, but our aim is to provide cash prizes for Premiership, High and Mid with at least item prizes for Open.
Perks for Donating
- Donator Title €5 – Receive an ‘ETF2L Donator’ Title on the Forums (similar to current Staff titles).
- Bundle #1 €10 – Entry towards a raffle to win a signed ETF2L shirt by the top 5 teams at i52 and TF2 celebrities a Tt eSPORTS Ventus Mouse , Tt eSPORTS SHOCK Headset and 10x serveme.tf Premium for 3 months each! Includes Donator Title.
- Bundle #2 €15 – Get a weapon signed by one of the top players in Europe. Includes 1 Raffle ticket and Donator Title.
- Bundle #3 €20 – Receive access to emotes on the ETF2L forums, the plan will be to have Twitch Style emoticons with TF2 classes. Includes 1 Raffle Ticket, Weapon Signing and Donator Title.
- Bundle #4 €30 – Receive a group mentoring session from one of Europe’s top players. Limited to 10 people per player. Includes 2 Raffle Tickets, Donator Title, Forum Emotes and Weapon Signing.
- Bundle #5 €50 – Receive a Custom Title on the ETF2L website. In the new theme, Staff titles will be listed in a different colour while Donator titles will be in the regular colour. Includes 3 Raffle Tickets, Forum Emotes and Weapon Signing.
- Bundle #6 €100 – Get your ETF2L official match casted live on teamfortresstv by Admirable! Limited to 5 people. Includes 5 Raffle Tickets, Weapon Signing, Forum Emotes and Custom Title.
All donators will be contacted by email, please make sure the email you use is one you will check!
Details for Perks in full can be found on our Indiegogo page.
Item Donations
We had set up a specific account to manage donations, however due to the trade restrictions this account can’t accept trade donations until 1st February. Until then Permzilla will be accepting donations to his personal backpack, but we promise that all donations will be transferred to the ETF2L Fundraiser account when possible. You can send him a trade offer here and view his backpack here.
If you don’t feel comfortable donating to Permzilla’s backpack, feel free to wait until the Fundraiser account is working. (He does control both though, so there isn’t much of a difference really!)
Season 20 powered by Tt eSPORTS: Fundraiser Showmatch
Join 
Admirable and 
Sideshow on Tuesday 27th January where two of the best teams in Europe will battle it out in a showmatch across a bo3. This will be to promote the fundraiser and Season 20 as a whole. There will also be a featured Tt eSPORTS giveaway during the showmatch, where you will have a chance to win either a Tt eSPORTS Ventus Mouse or a Tt eSPORTS SHOCK Headset
- Reason Gaming vs Ze Knutsson Rollerbladers: Tuesday, January 27 at 20:00 CET
Season 20 powered by Tt eSPORTS: Maps
Season 20 is proving to be one to go down in the history books of ETF2L in many ways. Here’s another: it’s goodbye to cp_granary which has seen playtime in 19 seasons of ETF2L up until now. Quite a record, however TF2 is a changed game, and we feel the map has served it’s time and it’s time for some new, fresh and exciting maps to come through. Welcome cp_sunshine_rc4!
- cp_badlands
- cp_gullywash_final1
- cp_process_final
- cp_snakewater_final1
- cp_logjam_b18
- koth_viaduct_pro5
- cp_sunshine_rc4
- Week 1: cp_badlands & cp_process_final
- Week 2: cp_process_final & cp_gullywash_final1
- Week 3: cp_gullywash_final1 & cp_logjam_b18
- Week 4: cp_logjam_b18 & cp_snakewater_final1
- Week 5: cp_snakewater_final1 & cp_sunshine_rc4
- Week 6: cp_sunshine_rc4 & koth_viaduct_pro5
- Week 7: koth_viaduct_pro5 & cp_badlands
Posted by ETF2L Staff in 6v6, League
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I WANNA GIVE A HUGE SHOUTOUT TO ALL THE LEAGUE ADMINS THAT PUT WORK INTO THIS PROJECT (not a single one)
HYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYPE
I’m donating straight away. I need those twitch emoticons.
It’s not very clear on the newspost, but some of the perks might not be available until March. Some might be done in February though.
hype is coming to etf2l
Isn’t the new viaduct just called koth_viaduct_pro5? I am confused
granary > logjam, sunshine is ok.
Seriously anything is better than logjam, why not metalworks? or even these maps that maincall.tf did a cup for (not logjam) are better…
….but what will the russians play now?
That is the real question.
I pray for the soul of whoever picks exon for their mentor session
but rip grana :(
does Bundle #2 include gift wrap or thats on our own heads?
I feel responsible for the loss of Granary #Leakzilla
what an eksdee
bye gran, hello logjam & sunshine <3
Still don’t understand rewarding mediocrity by giving prizes to anything besides prem.
Fuck everything about removing granary :(
Rest is dope though
oh granary. I already miss you. You will always have a special place in my heart
lol you forgot granary you idiots
Prizes = Motivation and More Teams
Money Prizes motivate lower Tier teams to Practice more and more teams are being created because of money as well.
also you can’t ask everyone to donate and then only give prizes to prem
rip granary
now eu tf2 is oficially dead
maaaan whaaat no granary :(
granary was a solid map, with interesting features. dont see why youd remove a map that hasnt been problematic since the update in like 2010
PCE NERDARY LOL
granary has been here since day one. :(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
You removed Gran and kept logjam. GG European TF2, it was fun whilst it lasted.
Granary will be sorely missed, but I guess something had to go to make space. (should have been logjam)
Honestly have no idea why was granary even removed. Not going to blame everyone, just would like to hear reasoning on why it happend.
Adding metalworks would be have been a decent idea.
worst map pool ever…
i think granary>sunshine
but im happy that logjam is in the mappool :)
Granary has been sitting there as one of the least popular maps in the map pool for a while now, meanwhile we’re introducing a new map every season and removing it straight away because it’s not like Badlands. We’re bored of it, lets give a map that is played regularly in lobbies and pickups a chance to become a staple map of European TF2. 1 season is not enough to judge it properly, not even mentioning the countless hours of improvements logjam is getting. Is granary ever going to improve, or will it just keep sitting there as one of the less popular maps in the pool?
That’s why. If after a substantial amount of time a map is not working still, obviously we will not continue with it anymore. But 1 season is not substantial.
I will admit it is a risk, but I’m confident it will pay off.
Nice to see logjam stick around, really fun map would have liked to see badlands go but that would never happen, snake then?!
Just saying Granary has been in both the finals in the i49 and i52 events?! So why would such an important and historical map be taken out of the map pool and even then why couldn’t this sort of decision be put to a vote?
tons of pressure on hyce to improve logjam, which most feedback said played terribly last season
Granary was not played at i52 grand finals, and was the deciding map at i49 grand finals (aka it wasn’t chosen). Imo Granary was the best map to get rid of since logjam is still under development, and viaduct offers some nice variety.
Can’t believe we are still adding logjam to the map pool.
granary > logjam
i’m glad i dont have to play granary again
it’s a shame logjam is just being labelled a shit map even though it’s come a long way since the version that was in the previous season
from what little i’ve played, i’d rate it higher than snake and granary and it’s still getting better
Even if logjam turns out to be a steaming pile of balls by the time it’s actually considered completed, it’s still possible to bring granary back and replace it. If you do the opposite and remove it in favour of granary now, no matter how good or bad it turns out to be in the end – you will never see it again.
Also this map announcement was so late. Please can you think about this in advance before next season, it’s a bit dumb to not know the maps till 5 days before preseason playoffs (which I’m sure will prove very important for some teams).
Question about donations :
The signing perks include a gift wrap or it’s on the donators charge ?
Items donation have a money value, like 5 € = 3 keys or something like that ?
How much for a dinner with Permzilla ?
first week starts in 2 weeks, the only new map is sunshine and that starts in week 5
for playoff candidates there is still a full week to tryhard sunshine if they want
so don’t really see a problem
Playoff weeks starts in 4 days (2 “pcw” days)? Keep in mind it’s more than 1 match, so people can’t just schedule it to thursday and use all of that week to practice. It’s not a problem for you, but strangely enough I didn’t have you in mind. It’s completely unnecessary since nothing changed other than a sunshine cup that could have been held 2 weeks ago.
qq
It’s not effecting me either, it’s just valid feedback. I don’t mean offence to sonny black so why are you arguing.
While I se your point, Kaidus, it may be a little bit of a late announcement, but we had the sunshine cup and assuming you practised for that, you played a decent amount of it by now. Logjam was in the last season. The regular season shouldnt be a problem, since we put the “new” maps at the end. As for the playoffs, people had opportunities to scrim sunshine for at least two weeks now. It was also an open secret that we consider sunshine to be in the mappool, otherwise we would not have run the cup that close to the season.
I think everything will work out. Next time we should get it on the way earlier though.
Ye I mean it’s not the worst thing that ever happened, and I really don’t write it from the perspective that I’ve been particularly effected by it. It just seems like something that could be fixed for next time and could benefit some people.
#SaveGrana
sad sad sad
Assuming the fundraiser target is met the prize pools should work out at prem: €2500, main: €900, mid: €600 if they are following the 50/30/20 split that are normally used for 1st/2nd/3rd place.
Really nice initiative to provide prizes across all divs. However I’m wondering how sustainable this donation/perk model is, as the perks that enable features on the forum itself (donator title, emoticons, custom title) seem like the sort of thing you’d donate for once, just for the novelty, then ignore later. I do understand the prime motivator for donating will hopefully be supporting the league, just hope people will feel as inclined to after they’ve had their “8)” forum title for a season.
Leads me to wonder whether its possible in future to require players/teams contribute (€5 per player?) towards the prize pool in order to be eligible to win from it. Even if there were only 3 full teams per eligible division contributing it would still amount to nearly 10% of the total fundraising target. Seems more than fair to me as it would be totally optional and take some of the weight off the shoulders of the larger community. Alongside some more/different perks I can see the community sustaining this increased prize pool for the foreseeable future and who doesn’t want that?!
Oh yeah and someone might want to have a word with zoob about throwing in a few donator status logs.tf accounts into the raffle too, those new features sure look cool… SAY WHAT?!?
props to ads for bundle #6
replace snake with gran or metalworks, everything else shoud be okay then
gran out is good, since it’s the least favorite map
logjam still in and no metalworks makes me sad tho
“since it’s the least favorite map”
show a poll on that and i will believe it :)
Contribuutin ->
Couple questions I got in my mind about the fundraiser:
If I would want to donate more later on, is it possible to change a donation given for bundle #4 to #5 for example?
Are there any limits on how many times one person can donate? So that they would increase their chances for more raffle tickets.
Is there only one ticket or two tickets in bundle #3? I donated for that and noticed on the Indiegogo page that I was able to get two tickets, but just now noticed that there’s only one ticket mentioned in here.
Will the money given after March 1st still go to the prize pool?
I do apologize if this isn’t the correct place to ask about this.
finally granary is gone, happy to see new maps coming
Why the fuck would you favour Logjam over Granary are you serious :|
sad to see granary go would have prefered via or snake. one of the last maps with a good last getting replaced by the map with the most obnoxious last point i’ve played in a long time.
still hyped for the season at least logjam is getting better and better
only 100€ to get casted by big admirable???
also RIP IN PEACE GRANARY!!! finally… ))))
granary :(
Common I loved Granany… ;_;
You only need the following steps:
1. Remove logjam
2. Bring back granary
Wohoo! No granary! :P
@buttnose i talked to zoob about the premium logs.tf thingi amd he said he isnt even sure if its gonna happen at all
dear smzi
even if I’m banned, I’m still able to play pcw and merc.
I hope it wasn’t too difficult to understand.
FUCK YES, NO MORE GRANARY I DONT EVEN CARE ABOUT PRIZES ANYMORE
Yeah you are able to merc ana, but you dont have to play the maps you dont want to :)
But seriously though, nobody played granary anymore besides some pcws in the week where you HAD to play it.
It has become sort of like gpit ikn that regard just that gpit was more exciting to play.
@Raptor I had to play logjam multiple times with my team last season
Pay money to be casted.. Nah..
cheap at twice the price Tomas :D
spudd: dogs.tf – TC.Crash said:
Today, 00:02
“….but what will the russians play now?
That is the real question.”
+1
Tomatoed
#keeptf2alive
So glad Granary has finally gone and logjam is sticking around, but Screw sunshine I want metalworks back.
#BringbackGranary
Granary ;(((((
fuck logjam
Worst map in the map pool finally removed, thank you admins.
I really don’t think that granary was labelled the least popular map.
Kinda bummed about it suddenly being gone but I’m really looking forward to this season :)
i’d replace badlands with granary just because of last, but hey badlands has a spire, can’t remove that
ryb will forever be the king of Granary ;_____;
why take away granary and replace it with logjam/sunshine?!?!?! wtf
Ads, that’s a sentence that could have ended on the third word and still be true :>
This is starting to go the right way. Hope to see Metalworks back within the next 1 or 2 seasons.
metalworks > logjam
Also if your solution to not remove Granary is to remove Badlands I have to disagree
rip granary you’ll forever be in my heart :(((((
what kind of aids solution is this
Sunshine and logjam? tf2 is dead
RIP Granary
It had the best hiding spots.
“Bundle #2 €15 – Get a weapon signed by one of the top players in Europe. Includes 1 Raffle ticket and Donator Title.”
Keen to get this, can I choose inso from Kill Switch?
granary>logjam+sunshine
Great job ETF2L! :)
weeks 4 through 6 are going to be miserable
For some reason 90% of granary lovers seem to be sollies
glad that map is gone
For some reason 90% of granary haters seem to be scouts
sad that map is gone
Are you going to be more strict about the divisions, i.e. teams that win div HAVE to move up?
Obvious example is LEGO (I don’t hate the team or anything no worries)
It just seems unfair to me that a team can win their div and stay in the same div. Other teams that actually belong in that div have to play against a team that should be in a higher div.
I know that LEGO was offclassing but after 3 seasons won in div 1 it should be obvious that it doesn’t really matter.
Again, no hate against LEGO and I know that you may have you reasons to stay in div 1 but it seems really unfair to me that other teams basically don’t have a chance to get 1st prize in their div.
(please note that this wouldn’t affect me at all since my team is most likely not gonna win high tier)
I’m scout and I like granary
#100
“omg the oldest map still around got taken out in favor of two new fresh maps we don’t know well yet??!? game’s dead.”
We’re adding in new content and you call the game dead. I don’t think that’s how that works.
ok buddy you dont even play tf2 and u comment here. how about u fk off?
I agree with uubers here hyce.
cp_logjam_b17
koth_viaduct_pro5
cp_sunshine_rc4
thats why tf2 is dead
gj uk gj
Oh boy, group mentoring session by kaidus! I’m definitely gonna get that!
Nobody has any issues with granary being removed, the problem lies in logjam still being in the pool.
Truth is logjam is plain unfinished. Aesthetics wise its -1/10. Gameplay wise is mediocre at best and previously maps were kicked out after they were tried once.
You want sunshine? Fine, not even a bad map, just replace logjam with sunshine and keep granary or bring back metalworks or w/e.
I do not question the amount of work that admins put into etf2l but it would be interesting to see how map pools are decided and if a larger body (even prem/d1) could vote on it. Also would be nice if there is any possibility of bringing maps back once they have been removed – I for one would love to see metalworks brought back but I understand that my opinion really doesn’t matter – but would be nice to know how all of this is decided
The problem with voting systems, as always, is participation.
Also I think a prem/div1 vote system wouldn’t work because there is too much self interest to be had there, IE if you are the best at the current meta, you wouldn’t want the meta to change. (hate to generalize, but it is a danger)
But then you couldn’t have just the lower level players vote, because they don’t have enough experience to tell what is truly overpowered or game braking.
you couldn’t have an open vote, because the people who bother to vote wont be representative of the community as a whole.
I don’t think that a mandatory vote for everyone who plays each season would be liked either.
Honestly I think the etf2l staff are the best deciders, simply because they can try to do what is best for competitive tf2 in general, and have the least vested interest. And they can force things to happen that will be disliked at first, but better in the long run, that would never happen with any kind of vote system.
I didn’t know what I had until it was gone. RIP Granary.
How much do I have to donate to be added as one of the ‘top players’ for weapon signing???
Also, Buttnose’s post was very good, and his suggestion for a more sustainable community driven prize pot should be given consideration.
If I were to donate 30 € to get the bundle #4 but have no use for the mentoring session because I don’t play anymore, would I be able to give it away?
Cheers
Honey Badger
Thats no problem honeybadger all you do is reserving a slot in the mentorsession if you want to give it to a friend thats no problem
if u donate 200 euro i will give diet tips
Will be talking Season 20 tonight on Fully Charged! Europe – Episode 21
http://teamfortress.tv/thread/22191/fully-charged-europe-episode-21
Granary sucks, it was time to remove it
Granary is still played on scrims/mixes regularly, whereas who seriously scrims on logjam outside of training for a specific fixture?
ALSO THANKS FOR THE 110 MB SUNSHINE MAP WHICH IS TOTALLY WELL OPTIMIZED
EVEN FUCKING TC_HYDRO IS SMALLER
<3 logjam