Season 4: Map Pool Polls
December 31, 2008
The Season 4 Map Pick Phase is starting coming Monday. Every team will have to pick one map against every opponent of his Division. After the Map Pick Phase is over, the picks will decide which maps two teams will have to play against each other. If two teams picked the same map against each other, it can be changed once to a Secondary or 3rd Party Map (see Rule 2.8).
Note: Every team who doesn’t submit their Map Picks in time will lose their spot. Be sure not to miss it.
Like every season we will have some changes in our Map Pool. After some internal discussion we already decided to add the two standard maps pl_badwater to the secondary and tc_hydro to our 3rd Party Map Pool. Also cp_steel and ctf_smooth_b2 [Map Info – Download Link] will be added to the Secondary or 3rd Party Map Pool which will be decided by the community. Besides these we also added two public polls if cp_freight_b3 and/or cp_fastlane should be moved into the Primary Map Pool. Vote below!
Current Map Pool
- Primary Map Pool (can be picked 3 times) – cp_badlands, cp_gravelpit, cp_granary, cp_well, ctf_turbine
- Secondary Map Pool (can be picked 1 time) – cp_dustbowl, cp_fastlane (public poll!), cp_freight_b3 (public poll!), cp_labor, ctf_2fort, ctf_mach4, ctf_well, pl_badwater, pl_goldrush
- 3rd Party Map Pool (see Rule 2.8): cp_redstone_b2, cp_science2, cp_stag, cp_warpath2, tc_hydro
Season 4 Map Pool: cp_freight_b3
Total Voters: 552
Loading ...Season 4 Map Pool: cp_fastlane
Total Voters: 552
Loading ...Season 4 Map Pool: cp_steel
Total Voters: 545
Loading ...Season 4 Map Pool: ctf_smooth_b2
Total Voters: 524
Loading ...All polls will close Sunday, 4th January, at 22:00 CET.
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Polls by divisions wouldve been better idea.. im pretty sure 80% of div1 players will never want to play fastlane on an official match. (the map is horrible shit since you cant come back once you’ve lost the middle point)
cp_smooth?
I’d rather have only div1 and div2 voting on this. (I’m coming str8 outta div3/div/4)
Can you give links to the custom maps? Like cp_freight_b3 (fpsbanana doesn’t work). Also cp_smooth (searching for it on google returns 6 hits)
Polls by divisions, thank you.
Surely it should be just cp_freight not b3. The final version has been out for ages and gets played by the community. I don’t know if you can still get b3 the link on this website links to the final version iirc.
Fastlane is a woeful map for clan play most of the time so anything that can avoid it being added would be nice but forcing the top teams to play some different maps would be good, doubly so if it inspired the rest of the divisions to as well.
Nothing wrong with adding new maps but fastlane is just awful. Very, very low chance for comeback once the center is lost and last point is easy to def but it’s almost impossible to take 2nd CP back unless you manage to kill the whole enemy team inside 10 seconds or something. Fast spawn for the attacking side means that they will quickly take the second point back even if you managed to cap it for a moment. This results as stalemates and long fights over the last point when the defending team knows they will almost certainly lose the round if they try to push out.
fastlane is nice map ^^
Actually moose it’s inside 4seconds, else they all spawn differently and you’re fucked :(
And what the hell is ctf_smooth_b2? :(
@Krakyn: Imo b3 is better than the final
^ maybe, but you can no longer find b3 in fpsbanana.
Fastlane is horrible, can’t believe it’s doing so well in this poll. As people have said, the fundamentals of the map are deeply flawed. Way too many health packs, the respawns are atrocious and totally go against the grain of fluid gameplay. The only viable strategy on defending CP 1 is wait out the 10 minute cap time.
Freight at least has the basics of a 5 CP push map right.
Freight has the same problem on the last spawn tbfh.
No argument from me that Freight final CP is very hard to attack/very easy to defend, but mechanically, it functions a lot more like Well than it does Fastlane.
Fishbus modelled all the spawn times and travel distances on Granary exactly, check for yourself. And the dude works in mapping, and loves TF2, he knows his shit, and wouldn’t make such basic gameplay errors in mapping like Fastlane does.
still mate, as attacker you get 5 secs, as def you get around 10-15 on the last point (cba to chech it now). I love the map, but it’s friggin hard to repush ANYTHING from the last. Esp. since the other team basically SPAWNS on the 2nd point.
it isn’t any harder repushing 2nd on freight than 2nd on granary
Krakyn: rEJ
obviously you dont have a clue. im really glad etf2l is staying with b3 instead of switching to the so called “final” which sucks balls. i mean who the fuck does the map maker think he is, b3 been out for a long time, its in leagues, people play it, people like it, then bam release final complete suprise with very very different mid and just go “there, final.” with obviously different mid gameplay and just expect people to accept it like that, dude, what the fuck?
freight (b3) is a fun, cool, fresh map and its VERY doable to get back from last or any other point for that matter. its a good map. fastlane on the other hand is shit (reasons have been mentioned). and yet, shockingly, atm freight->2ndary is winning the poll, which is wtf?! and fastlane->primary is atm winning it’s poll, wtf?! ?!!? !? ¤”!?” ¤E3243w464e5tr45435
voters please get a clue
VOTE FREIGHT_B3 TO PRIMARY MAP POOL
FASTLANE TO SECONDARY (or even 3rd.:p)
thx.
hydro > fastlane
Good Voting, Fastlane is an official map and have to be in the Primary Map Pool, Freight is a good map but not as good as fastlane so the secondary map pool is the right solution. Although Steel is a “new” official map I think its not as good as others and I dont know “smoooooooth” lol
use full version of freight please, its got a couple of changes that make it much better and played much more often.
i would tend to final version of freight too
Polls by divisions please.
why b3? why?! its unplayble on older pcs:(
lol nemppu slight over reaction mate. I’m not saying one version is better than the other just that getting b3 is not easy and with ever more new players and clans joining having a map that’s not the final version and difficult to get hold of is probably not a good plan. The link in the rules section works again so I guess no one will have an excuse but I can still see it causing a problem at some point during the season.
no. b3 is better.
if only naabs would vote it into primary map pool :(/:/( polls by div might be a good idea.
couldnt agree more moose.
fastlane is awful
Seppo wrote:
“Polls by divisions wouldve been better idea.. im pretty sure 80% of div1 players will never want to play fastlane on an official match. (the map is horrible shit since you cant come back once you’ve lost the middle point)”
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Then what is the problem? If you play on div1 and no div1 team wants to play Fastlane then no one is forcing them to pick it. And if no one picks it then you don’t have to play it.
If div1 clans would decide what maps are played then we would only have one map pool and that pool would have 2 maps in it, Badlands and Granary.
This whole scene needs a bit change and more maps is always a good thing. I bet those div1 clans are happy to play badlands and Granary all the time trying to be so “professional”. Some of us are sick and tired of those maps and want some change.
Try to play a practise match in a different map and you end up in a situation when after you have played the Badlands the opponent picket they will say you can pick only Granary or we quit. FFS lear to play some other maps!!