Season 14 powered by Twitch – Wrapup & More Bans
April 11, 2013
Season 14 powered by Twitch Wrapup
ETF2L’s Season 14 powered by Twitch has come to an end last Thursday – and what an end it has been! Probably only a handful of people would have predicted that the Grand Finale would be such an exciting match, considering the contestants that faced each other there. The Season 14 championship title defenders, 
Epsilon eSports, did not drop a single map since the Insomnia 46 LAN in August 2012, after all. Their opponents, 
broder, joined them in the finals after quite an upset they caused in the second round of the playoffs, to provide us with a nail-biter we haven’t seen in a long time. The VoDs of all playoff matches from VanillaTV and TeamFortress.TV are available on the Playoffs’ hub page and on their respective YouTube channels. We strongly suggest taking the time to watch them, if you have not already, as those last matches of the season turned out to be the best matches of the season and the casting only spiced them up!
It is our pleasure to announce that the reigning champions, Epsilon eSports, have emerged as the winners once again, securing €495 from the prize pool, courtesy of Season 14 title sponsor Twitch. The winning squad is comprised of:
KnOxXx (Medic)
numlocked (Demoman)
Mike (Soldier)
Mitsy (Soldier)
basH. (Scout)- schocky (Scout)
wltrs (Scout)- Slick (Manager)
On their way towards victory they managed to score some big wins to support their conquest:
- Week 1 vs.
Damage Control: cp_badlands 5-0 – cp_gullywash_final1 5-0 - Week 2 vs. broder: cp_badlands 6-1 – cp_snakewater 5-0
- Week 3 vs. Quarantine: cp_gullywash_final1 5-0 – cp_snakewater 5-3
- Week 4 vs. Pokeman: cp_gullywash_final1 5-0 – cp_process_rc2 5-1
- Week 5 vs.
Crack Clan: cp_process_rc2 5-1 – cp_snakewater 5-0 - Week 6 vs. nerd party: cp_granary 7-2 – cp_process_rc2 8-3
- Grand Final vs. broder: cp_granary 2-1 – cp_process_rc2 3-4 (golden cap) – cp_snakewater 3-2
This season’s silver medalists, broder, will walk away with €297 in cash.
Crack Clan, who secured the bronze medal this season, will take home €198.
In other news, SOLAR 2013 have emerged victorious as winners of this season’s Division 1 and are advancing to the Premiership Division next season.
All pixel trophies have been given out. In case you spotted a mistake, please contact the admin staff. In-game medals will be distributed to all participants as soon as they are added to the item schema.
Even outside Premiership, winning your group is an impressive achievement. Here’s the list of group champions across all of Season 14’s divisions:
Premier Division: Epsilon eSports- Division 1: SOLAR 2013
- Division 2A: vier // red
- Division 2B:
RELAPSE! Gaming - Division 2C: Scandi vs HUUHHU
- Division 3A:
AfterShock eXe - Division 3B:
eZ eSports - Division 3C: Dawson\’s Creek
- Division 3D: Team Colonslash: Reditio
- Division 3E:
CTADO - Division 4A: Fenneks eSports
- Division 4B: Brooklyn Zoo
- Division 4C: The Hard 6
- Division 4D: Crack Clan // Purple
- Division 4E: NoChallenge
- Division 4F: ersten mannschaft
- Division 4G: Girls United
- Division 5A:
jAgarna - Division 5B:
DIVISION - Division 5C: Lynch Mob
- Division 5D:
Autistic Justice Chums - Division 5E:
Bring the funk - Division 5F:
can\’t find mid e-sports - Division 5G:
Red Menace - Division 5H:
Actually is - Division 5I: addict! Black\’n\’White
- Division 5J: Padre Kamil
- Division 6A:
SnorrenBrigade - Division 6B: jadOM Świnie
- Division 6C: Da Funk
- Division 6D: Battle Royale
- Division 6E: Legendary Souls
- Division 6F: Team Divi5ion
- Division 6G: K5 \”eSports\”
- Division 6H: Horsing around
- Division 6I: Civilized Play
- Division 6J: Windtunnel Tactics
- Division 6K: WTF?2
- Division 6L: Victoria
- Division 6M: Haze eSports Classic
- Division 6N: Gra4i
Season 15 application reminder
If your team finished last in a group with two or more drops, which occupied all demotion spots, you are not guaranteed a spot in the same division in Season 15. Although you are not in the “red zone”, you are still in danger of demotion if more worthy candidates apply for the same division.
In other words: if your team finished last, you still have to submit screenshots if you apply for the same division in Season 15.
More Bans!
The following players have been found guilty of cheating and are now banned from all ETF2L competitions for one year:
zilis – Wallhack
bebeto – Wallhack
Ravioli – Wallhack
Matches in recent seasons that involved these players will be changed to default losses. These default losses do not count towards the default loss limit. Season 4 matches affected by this action may be replayed if both teams agree.
In addition, one player has been spotted with a recent VAC ban affecting Team Fortress 2, and is now banned from the League as well:
tR.Moose – VAC ban
As the player has not been caught cheating by our AC staff, per our policy his team’s results will not be affected by his ban.
The following players have created new ETF2L accounts after being banned from the League, and thus their bans have been extended by one year:
Data – alt of TheSpok
Retard no name, -- -- – alts of 
bestsniperworld
Any attempts to bypass a League ban will result in an even longer ban on all accounts associated with the player. Don’t do it.
Posted by ETF2L Staff in 6v6, League
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I thought ETF2L didn’t ban for VAC bans?
My question is rather; when was Moose VAC-banned? This is incredibly disappointing to me.
http://etf2l.org/matches/39037/ 2 cheaters in 2 different teams in same group and match :DDDD
and both were banned for wallhack
Like a week ago
another French hacker :/
haha again frenchie guy
Lol, may I see any proof when I get back home?
WAT?
I’m proud to be French. Very nice country, Paris, Eiffel tower, sea and cheat
YEAH Pixel Trophies
French FTW and ForTheCheat !
Mldc Irma, Mldc…
update div 6G pls ^^
This Playoffs Hub would be even better if it included all the additional fancies (e.g. related stvs, logs, VoDs and analysis videos, and not only for the finals) and didn’t say that “The last match of the series will happen soon” :P
*PoVs, not VoDs! VoDs are already there.
So if teams refuse to replay the games for Killswitch, KS will be forced to fold?
What ?! 1st april was 10 days ago, how could you say/proof that ravioli was cheating D:
“These default losses do not count towards the default loss limit.”
Please provide proof for Zilis’ wallhack.
I am tired of ETF2L NEVER providing ANY proof for bans.
Cheers Mista, that somehow slipped through when I read it.
The annoying thing about showing proof is that it shows other cheaters what they need to do to not get caught.
So no, that’s never going to be made public.
let me guess tenshi, he was really nice and therefore couldn’t possibly cheat?
Well done Crack Clan Purple!
Division 4F: Russia ersten mannschaft
but they had a cheater? wtf etf2l
Less that 100 euro each, incredible. Very difficult and serious game!
This is so retarded to ban couse of wh. Zilis and others im pretty 100%sure not using any wh, gimme demo or something that proves that they using it…
I disagree that it is retarded to ban someone who used a wallhack. You can ask zilis for his demos and look for yourself, if you want, but no proof for any ban will ever be released by our staff, mainly for two simple reasons:
1) It would tell cheaters how to better mask their cheats
2) It is hard for an untrained eye to know what to look out for => more drama (“This evidence is bullshit and does not show he is cheating at all”)
Well if someone wants to check my demos I havę 3GB of them for your pleasure.
Thanks Ravioli to be swiss :’)
C’mon ETF2L admins, do your job properly and ban more frenchies please…
How many admins have to admit on each suspected player case that he is cheating ?
Your policy to not show proofs its kinda untrusted,ok you have some issues why you dont show it, but in other case if admin made a mistake(its really possible everybody makes mistakes), and the player cant even had a chance to defend himself
“Please provide proof for Zilis’ wallhack.
I am tired of ETF2L NEVER providing ANY proof for bans.”
Atleast if the players gives his demos it should be reviewed by other admins with no attitude that hes already cheater just in the objective way (not the same ones which “detected” him cheating.)
^ he got banned, deal with it.
Mad status: [x] Mad [ ] Not Mad
alter ego, so when you get banned for nothing that means I should deal with it? Nice.
@shimmy lets make all bans part of a public vote so we can ban people we dont like and save cheaters cuz we like them???
Ravioli banned ?
I bet he is gonna laugh of your “work”.
All of our team is shocked by this decision, if u continue to ban ppl without showing prooves everyone will don’t trust your AC Team (as me). IRL you can’t send someone in jail without proofs, or it’s corruption.
You should check my demos, I kill spies with very strange mooves. –‘
there is a mistake, winner of d3c are “lucky productions” :D
oh and please stop with the omgomgomgomgom french hax
this fashion was over before that stupid thread, and it was fine,
a lot of omomgomgomgom french bans happen when there is french ac admins,
anakin back in the days, now the 1337 brigade
Alexcouter: Playing in any league or competition is no right, it is a privilege.
Releasing proof won’t change a thing, except that the people already defending their friends will claim the proof is invalid.
lol how does it “won’t” help? Enlight me, please. Like someone above said – if u get banned for “cheating” and you know that you are clean and that admins made a huge mistake – then how the f*** u’ll prove/defend yourself? Just leave it the way it is and stay banned simply being good or due admins mistakes?? Way to go!
@smzi i never told/mean such a thing,the main thing i was trying to say that player wich is banned and feels completly not guilty,has chance to ask for reviewing it once more by others admins thats all.
you didnt understand right? “1) It would tell cheaters how to better mask their cheats” the ones that got banned, can upload their demos, but upload them in public will cause drama. In my opinion the demos shouldnt be public.the presumption of innocence should be respected of course , but in a democracy you need someone to judge what the others did wrong, and it is your choice if you trust or not the court.
esl was just fine :'(
No Im busy the weeks and dont have internet with works, i cant follow tf2 at all.
I just learned it today and obviously im appealing it.
if after that i dont get true justice about it.
then im not kidding at all : it will be the court if necessary. being banned for things you didn’t do is unfair. i won’t give up and being insulted as cheater for no “real proofs” than others AC teams opinions is very offensive
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZQ_RDb0lcE
“it will be the court if necessary”
my landlord is a lawyer. should i give you his phone number? :>
Your decision to keep the ban proofs private is shady and unprofessional in my opinion. So you want to ban players to keep the league clean, yet, you don’t provide proof / option for the player in cause to contest the ban, which just makes me think you can do whatever you want inside your ac admin circlejerk…
Im not even defending the guy, I just think thats poor management from etf2l’s and it has been made clear the ac team is not uncontested in their decisions.
The “cheaters can learn how to avoid bans” argument is the poorest excuse I have seen.
I hope it doesn’t happen but if someone is wrongfully accused and banned then why not allowing him to contest the ban / see the proof for the ban?
W8 and see, all is in the hand of ravioli and ac admins. :/
wtf ETF2L, why don’t you show us proofs? If people are dumb enough to get caught with a cheat, then it won’t change anything, and they’ll get caught anyway.
VIVE LA FRANCE #FREE FRANCE
Kaneco got it right
ALSO I WANT TO BE A FUCKING AC ADMIN
ETF2L has never released any proof and neither has any other online league (except for very rare occasions). Even Valve does not provide any information on VAC bans they issue.
If following the example of every eSports venture and game publisher makes us look less professional, so be it.
Kaneco: You only argued against the (weaker) half of the reason why online leagues do not provide proof for cheating. As i repeatedly said, releasing the proof (time tables etc, not publically available demos) will not change a thing except that the people who are already defending the convicted will discard it as “invalid” (as proven on numerous occasions where AC proof has been leaked). For an untrained eye and for someone who does not know all techniques that can be used to detect certain cheats, it is often not possible to spot the suspicious actions
Also please bear in mind that the ETF2L admin staff are providing a free service and has every right to exclude anyone from using it. This is not and has never been a democracy, contrary to popular belief.
ouch: LAME
If i said that it’s because i have family member that know these things more more than me, this is not funny at all since you weren’t banned for no “real” proofs. I know im not cheating so this is clearly the proof that there were a mistake. Nobodies is perfect AC team either im not blaming them everyone can do mistakes. but i hope it will be repaired peacefully
tf2 is a game that i spent a lot of time and being banned like that is unacceptable.
@CanFo : So it means that if you’re not an AC admin you obviously don’t know shit about cheats and only them know about it?
bebeto aka lets apply for ac staff to save my own ass
smzi i had already applied for AC staff, like 6 months ago, i had no reply. I had especially applied to avoid my kind of case.
cute
Banning for WH? Just look how noobie it is, i know the aim or something, but the WH, god damn its Tf2 not Cs or something that obviously can say that its wh, also, theres some bugs in tf2 that u can see thro walls if hes standing close to it and u have shadows open, maybe thats the mistake wich admins saw?? God damn, its so fkn, im so mad about this choise u made, again rewiev that demos/movies, it can’t be like that. Simply, someone called him as wh’ing, and bam, ban. No, thats not doing as that… Admins made a HUGE mistake that cost like 3 team drops.
KPenz: If you derived that from what I said, please read again.
@Xabi : Esl is better? You know, it was anakin the ac admin, you know, the “french haters” who ban other french. The tf2 community stopped to play this league coz it wasn’t the same system of match, something not working with tf2 but working for other games. And aeaquitass was boring, upload all the time demo too. Yes our community is bored to do these thing instead of trying to change the format.
@Kpenz : Canfo didn’t meant that, but it make me laugh to talk with someone who is ban from french league for using cheats and uploaded a public screenshot on his steam profil . Your intelligence beyond your ears.
People who all the time speaking about ac stuff etc are : Revolutionary, cheaters, friend of cheaters (who can’t accept his friend is cheating, i’m sry about these guys), informatix, troll and some times lawyer. You ‘re on a private website with rules, you signed up, you accepted it.
Y U SO GOOD Epsilon?
About the bans, Mistakes have already been done before, Ac Team is composed of humans, shit happens.
Remember Quad?
ETF2L good job and thanks alot for this season, good job with the new anti cheat admin team =)
As far as i know there was no ac admin at the time that quad was banned and this decision was made by d2m when he was headadmin, be glad that people do care about this and make this job to clear the league from cheaters. What would this league be without them.
i won’t make a thread in the forum about my ban because i don’t want to piss admins with everyone opinions involved to this.
I appealed of it, it will take some times to make a new decision, if after that there is still no good answers. unfortunately it will go to the court as funny as it may be.
@killari, Anakin helped both ESL and ETF2L a lot. “And aeaquitass was boring, upload all the time demo too.” That’s a shitty excuse tbh, I’ve played esl season 6 and it was just fine….
@KillAry “People who all the time speaking about ac stuff etc are : Revolutionary, cheaters, friend of cheaters (who can’t accept his friend is cheating, i’m sry about these guys), informatix, troll and some times lawyer. ”
This is officially the dumbest thing I have heard today
@Canfo “Also please bear in mind that the ETF2L admin staff are providing a free service and has every right to exclude anyone from using it. This is not and has never been a democracy, contrary to popular belief.”
I am fully aware of that and I am glad you bring that out, I fully agree to the terms but still think it is of poor taste the way you (etf2l/ ac team) are handling the bans.
Also the other leagues excuse is not even relevant, etf2l’s ac team has had many dubious or even poorly handled cases before, from quad to baud, the april fools joke was the icing on the cake, it doesn’t really does you a favor with the goal (I think) you are working towards which is to run a sustainable and healthy league, free from cheaters and scandals. And if that is the goal, which I hope it is, you are seriously doing it wrong.
so basically whenever someone gets banned, he just has to say OMG I DIDNT CHEAT WOW SO UNFAIR SHITTY AC TEAM which means he must be legit right :3
Sustainable and healthy league? Season 15 about to start soon. Check.
Free from cheaters? Our ac team do all they can to keep the league cheater free. Semi-check since no league ever catches all cheaters at once. There will always be some playing.
Free from scandals? I dont remember any major scandal during my time of being league admin. Except obviously some players making a huge fuss about one or another little issue. So uh, check.
I must be missing where we are doing something “seriously wrong”?
Because mistakes can’t be made.
smzi : You’re telling me that you can ban without proofs but can’t unban without proofs.
SEEMS LOGIC.
why do we have the SAME conversation every time someone gets banned? its pretty boring now
^ because this is important.
Also this “Alexcounter: smzi : You’re telling me that you can ban without proofs but can’t unban without proofs.
SEEMS LOGIC.”
smzi : You’re telling me that you can ban without proofs but can’t unban without proofs.
looks like a 1 to 1 quote from what ive said /sarcasm
@Killari : “People who all the time speaking about ac stuff etc are : Revolutionary, cheaters, friend of cheaters (who can’t accept his friend is cheating, i’m sry about these guys), informatix, troll and some times lawyer.” I never EVER read something this dumb
They cheated and they got banned, AMEN.
I would love to see one of those admins,in the same spot as ussual etf2l player.
for exmpl. Permzilla is banned for wh, you fair player didint use any cheats but you`ve banned and you cant do anything.You request to watch your demos again – you get the answer – we dont work with cheater.
Anyway if etf2l will recheck demos and they will found they was wrong i cant believie they admit this.
they already did it in beaverns case :3
also cant wait for one cheater that just takes the ban cuz he knows that he fucked up :3
Wow, and I thought we’d lost to skilled teams in our div. What are the odds of encoutering two out of three detected cheaters in a season…
Serves y’all right, ’nuff said.
Ah, I enjoy reading these ban comments too much.
You can tell that AC staff is not doing its job properly.
1771 days here, and they didn’t even ban me yet. It is obvious that i cheat, it is written down in my nickname. Im the motherfucking captainhax, captainHAX§
lol captainhax :D
Looks to me like these guys are just spouting streams of steaming shit from their mouths in some desperate attempt to get unbanned, just take it without the drama; you said you weren’t going to make a thread about it bebeto yet you’re crying for ages in this comments thread.
Can you edit the division winners to include the equal first places and remove the teams dropped for cheating? Just a small thing, makes it look more professional.
“Banning for WH? Just look how noobie it is, i know the aim or something, but the WH, god damn its Tf2 not Cs or something that obviously can say that its wh, also, theres some bugs in tf2 that u can see thro walls if hes standing close to it and u have shadows open, maybe thats the mistake wich admins saw??”
Funniest thing I’ve read in a while :D
hopefully the court will conclude that you are not a hacker bebeto
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Admin edit: Cut this down a bit to better keep track of the comments
lol
the court dafuq :DDD
You guys are jumping to conclusions as usual. He doesn’t want to challenge in the law courts, he wants to challenge on the TENNIS court.
If he defeats the entire Anticheat team, he gets unbanned. Could sell tickets, fund the yanks for i49
pls no ban zilis eh is rilly cool guy would never cheat omg
Hey, I fought hard for my shared 1st place in 6G, now hand me my pixel trophy or it will be the court
More hackusations than a cod4 pub, ridiculous. Best sniper in div 1 highlander gets banned for outplaying div6. I bet the demos just show him aiming at a wall to hide his sniper dot…
MOAR BUSTOMOVIE PLS
Court…HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHAHAHAHAHAHAHA….AND BREATHE…….Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehahahaha…*drops dead from asphyxiation.
Fuck the courts, send them all in to Jeremy Kyle!
“I caught my French boyfriend sleeping around! Wallhack detector test reveals all!”
shoutout to bebeto for self busting him :D worst pliz unban me attempt ever
lol
you could be nice at least…
he’s banned :(
TF2 needs more boomeh.
we wan’t our medal, it seems that ersten mannschaft are allowed to have it, so…
Yes, you can’t all go on about cheating while giving a divisional title to a team dropped for cheating. Also Bohica joint-won their division. Does anyone actually read these posts?
@ Void and Fraac:
Results involving a VAC banned player are not affected, unless the player has been additionally caught cheating by our AC team.
From http://etf2l.org/2013/03/23/config-and-whitelist-update-new-ac-staff-bans/
Tapper was VAC’d, and got the leagueban from that.
Ok you edited the newpost, i wasn’t aware of that, nvm
http://youtu.be/jx7PjrMQShI
Threatening legal action for a service provided free of charge purely dependent on the person providing that service. What are you going to do claim racial discrimination for being banned from a private place. Claim libel? You’d have to prove innocence of the charges for that. I do love drama.
Nevermind Jeremy Kyle, it’s Judge Judy time!
ETF2L vs Random French hacker #45
In other news the season was fun.
So if a VAC banned player constantly just makes new alt accounts to play with, the results in the games he plays will stay. His alts will get banned but then he can just make more. Doesn’t this enable the player to circumvent the ban completely?
Jukspa: Read again what Bill wrote. That won’t work, because you left out the key part “unless the player has been additionally caught cheating by our AC team.”
fraac: If you spot any mistakes, please let an admin know on IRC, that is the fastest way.
Jukspa, you could go to the cheaters house and cut his arms off… I think that should deal with the issue of cheaters…
In other news, valve seems to be dealing REALLY well with issue of cheaters just making new f2p accounts to hack on… well fucking done…
yeah better blame valve :)
CanFo, maybe I don’t understand this properly but what if the VAC banned player keeps making alt accounts but does NOT cheat on the alt accounts? Will the results be turned into default losses in that case?
If someone has a VAC banned account (and is banned on ETF2L for that), any new ETF2L account made after the ban is announced will count as attempt to circumvent the ban, which adds a year to the existing ban. This does not have anything to do with results being overturned, I don’t think I get your point.
Example:
Player gets VAC banned. So he’s banned from ETF2L for one year.
1. Player makes new account
2. Plays in a official match, doesn’t cheat
3. Gets banned, ban time extended by one year, match result stays.
4. Repeat.
The player is able to play in official matches and have the match results count even though he’s banned.
Attempting to evade a ban would result in losing all results, it is treated like a regular cheating case.
Doesn’t the Tapper case fall in the “evading the ban” category? Since the guy made an alt account when he’s main account got VAC banned.
george: said:
April 12th, 2013 at 18:07
http://youtu.be/jx7PjrMQShI
wh + aim assist
hghghg
I think all the bans should be placed permanently.
A cheater won’t have a chance for the second time which means, that you can release all the proofs.
Tapper has only been “caught” now so he does not fall into this category.
We have archived all Season 14 pages now. The hub pages and playoffs hub, including the VoDs, can now be found here: http://etf2l.org/leagues/recent-seasons/
‘tappa’ was VAC’d, ‘tapper’ was the alt to evade the VAC. How does it not fall into the category? So what makes the season of ‘ersten mannschaft’ legitimate is that the VAC ban wasn’t noticed early enough for the alt account to extend the ban?
He did not try to circumvent an ETF2L ban with his alt, that is the point.
I see what you mean. I guess that the confusing part is the chronological succession, the time between the VAC ban and the creation of the alt and then the ETF2L ban on both of them. I assumed the VAC ban occurred before the creation of the alt, in which case a faster ETF2L ban would have nullified the season as it was the alt that played in the games. But of course I do not know how quickly you noticed the VAC ban, or whether you have a consistency therein.
All in all, in retrospect it seems like an irrelevant technicality, as the creation of the alt certainly presages the ETF2L ban as well. But I suppose it’s a technicality you wish to abide by.
@Mirelin: The thing is that if you give people a chance to reform, they are less likely to try to bypass the ban to keep playing (which serves etf2l, as there will be less players coming back to cheat).
I do agree that the benefits of transparency far outweigh the disadvantages of providing the evidence. One of the arguments provided was “no other league shows this evidence” clearly shows that etf2l is no ‘leader’ in competitive tf2, we just follow what others are doing…