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by smiguel (King Trump 2.0)



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European CRAZYGRILLS 6SClan vs UnitedStates King Trump 2.0
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King Trump 2.0 (6) Hoolygan5, cL42, osvaldo, B4ro, smiguel, mognog
CRAZYGRILLS 6SClan (6) Yxxo, 31, Reoccurring, Sacrilege, Yodo, os;


  • King Trump 2.0 [Minor] Unable to provide a requested demo (1st time)



  1. Default Date said:

    A default date has been set for this match by ETF2L.
    The default date is: Tuesday, 28 February 2017, 20:00
    Please play this match on the appointed time and submit the results.
    If the default date does not suit you, please contact your opponent and ask them to reschedule.

  2. YeeHaw: PANZER said:

    Hi ‘b4ro’ (you told me to call you that on here) this is dad, just wanted to say how proud me and your mother are of you, but remember to clean your room and do your chores. Enjoy your ‘videogaming’ and remember to be in bed by 10. Lots of love and kisses from your (gay) dad.

  3. Yxxo: TSM - pizza said:

    We request the demo from Chronic_.

  4. osvaldo: IaB said:

    Demos uploaded to my ETF2L profile, waiting for the admin team to make them public.
    I will provide a link to it once they appear there.

  5. ETF2L Staff said:

    Dear team King Trump,

    please upload the demos of Chronic_ within 72 hours or face a penalty in accordance with the General ETF2L Rules.
    You have to use the ETF2L demo upload system for archives under 100 MB, third party hoster links will be ignored.
    Minor warnings for missing demos can be removed later after talking to an admin, as long as the minor warnings of your team did not stack up to a major warning yet.

    2.4 Every player has to record Demos

    Demos can be requested by an admin or any player of the opposing team.
    Admins may request demos up to the end of the competition the match was played in (until the wrap up post is published). They can request as many demos as they require.
    The opposing team can request demos up to 48 hours after the match was scheduled to start. They can request demos from up to 2 players, who will then have to provide their demos for all played maps.
    A player whose demos have been requested has 72 hours to upload the demo, starting from the time the request was made.
    Failure to supply a requested demo will be punished.

    2.4.1 Penalties for not providing requested demos

    Failure to supply a requested demo will result in one of the following penalties:
    – First time: Minor warning for the team. This warning can be removed once the requested demo is provided.
    – Second time: Major warning for the team. Player is banned for two weeks from all ETF2L competitions.
    – Third time: Player is banned for two months from all ETF2L competitions.
    – Fourth time or more: Player is banned for one year from all ETF2L competitions.

    Penalties are applied if a requested demo is not provided within 72 hours. Major warnings and bans are not removable.

    Demos uploaded before were all SourceTV.

  6. osvaldo: IaB said:



  7. ETF2L Staff said:

    These are all STV. You need to upload your POV demos.

  8. osvaldo: IaB said:

    ETF2L rules don’t specify which type of demo I should submit.
    I uploaded a demo which you can see me play the full match on, therefore conforming to the rules and answering to the opponent’s request.

  9. cL42 said:

    You can watch his POV from the stv, it’s the same as having a demo from p-rec or auto record

  10. ETF2L Staff said:


    2.4 Every player has to record Demos
    A player whose demos have been requested has 72 hours to upload the demo

    I cannot see how this cannot be interpreted as a personal Demo. It is very clear you must record in the rules and if you wish for the warning to be removed you must submit the Demo as requested. We will look into whether or not we need to make changes to the wording based on this feedback.


    A POV demo records the perspective of the individual from the client side, whilst a STV demo records the perspective from a Server side.

  11. osvaldo: IaB said:

    I understand where you are coming from with this client vs server side stuff. But the truth is none of us is here to negociate or interpret the rules but rather to apply and respect them as they are set for the whole league. As of the moment when the request was made, the ETF2L rules didn’t specifyed the type of demo that had to be submitted.
    Also, quoting you from a previous message:
    “Demos uploaded before were all SourceTV.”, which means that STVs have been used over an extended period of time and that they provided enough detaisl for a decent analysis by the other team. I can’t see how a method that has been viable can’t work nowadays anymore, even with the addition of povs as those serve more for a personnal analysis purpose after matches (to spot domains to improve on).

  12. Yodo said:

    You played for 2 seasons and still not aware about basic ETF2L rules? You either extremely dense or like to waste admins time.

    1. >>Every player has to record Demos
    STVs are recorded by server not players. Rule is about demo recorded by YOU, not by server, friend or Gaben himself.
    Did you thought each players is obliged to record a personal STV? How? Statement was pretty clear for many generations of players as other interpretations are nonsensical.

    2. >>none of us is here to negotiate
    Exactly. Your misinterpretation or misunderstanding of rules is your personal problem. Admin clarified it for you. Provide demo or inform stuff about inability to do so. And yes, admins has enough authority to interpret rules (unlike us – mere mortals).

    3. >>STVs have been used over an extended period of time and that they provided enough detaisl

    It is not in your competence (both: technical and role-wise) to make a judgment regarding completeness of information provided by STV. But feel free to make a thread at ETF2L forums regarding this rule and who knows, maybe you can persuade everyone that it has no reasons to exist. But as for now – it is here.

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