Highlander Season 6 powered by Tt eSPORTS
Division 5B
Week 5
Round commencing: -
This match is affected by one or more wildcards.
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Results submitted:
by Transistor (The Tiny Waffles)
The Tiny Waffles
vs
Xenon
6 - 0
- Apr 10th, 16:51 - The Tiny Waffles [Transistor]
Players
| Xenon | (9) jojo, NoSocks, Icewind, Sam, Dejvi, Executer, Andy, wardemon, DudeoftheRock |
| The Tiny Waffles | (7) Closo, Liukkonen, CarboN, FloatingSkull, -Grizzly, Zevul, Transistor |
| Unrostered | (2) butterfingers, crazycalumrock |
Warnings
- Xenon [Minor] Unable to provide a requested demo (1st time)
Demos
- Map 1 (pl_badwater): First Person [Pruned] by Transistor (63 Downloads)
- Map 1 (pl_badwater): First Person [Pruned] by Transistor (38 Downloads)
- Map 1 (pl_badwater): First Person [Pruned] by Closo (89 Downloads)
- Map 1 (pl_badwater): First Person [Pruned] by Closo (74 Downloads)
- Map 1 (pl_badwater): First Person [Pruned] by Dejvi (71 Downloads)
- Map 1 (pl_badwater): First Person [Pruned] by Dejvi (66 Downloads)
- Map 1 (pl_badwater): First Person [Pruned] by Transistor (83 Downloads)
- Map 1 (pl_badwater): First Person [Pruned] by wardemon (44 Downloads)
- Map 1 (pl_badwater): First Person [Pruned] by wardemon (36 Downloads)
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Because this match has not been scheduled by either of the teams, a default date has been set for this match.
The default date is: Thursday, 10 April 2014, 20:00
Please play this match on the appointed time and submit the results.
A wildcard has been used for this match by The Tiny Waffles.
You must reschedule this match before April 18, 2014 CEST and play it before April 27, 2014 CEST.
20:06 – Transistor ❤ |TW|#Defaulthunters: Here sniper: http://etf2l.org/forum/user/83362/
20:06 – Transistor ❤ |TW|#Defaulthunters: merc medic: http://etf2l.org/forum/user/76142/
20:07 – Transistor ❤ |TW|#Defaulthunters: So you agree now?
20:07 – -Xe- Executer: connect string?
20:07 – Transistor ❤ |TW|#Defaulthunters: So. you agree?
20:08 – Transistor ❤ |TW|#Defaulthunters: Can you answer?
20:08 – -Xe- Executer: yeah
20:30 – Transistor ❤ |TW|#Defaulthunters: http://etf2l.org/forum/user/83320/
20:30 – Transistor ❤ |TW|#Defaulthunters: can we have this guy then?
20:30 – Transistor ❤ |TW|#Defaulthunters: or is he too good for you?
20:32 – -Xe- Executer: ok i do allow him
20:32 – -Xe- Executer: i do allow him
(The deafaulthunting in these ones are stronk)
was a gg, I wish you were a bit more polite
Transistor ❤ |TW|: really
Transistor ❤ |TW|: let me talk with your leaders
Transistor ❤ |TW|: go fuck yourself.
Transistor ❤ |TW|: you little nasty cunt :(
I hope in the future you get your normaly roster and be more mature
(the flameing in these ones are stronk)
and they say default hunting cause we wouldn’t allow a player who has div 2 experience :D
And instead let us have an even better merc. So thanks for that atleast ^^
rofl where do you see div2 experience?
He only played in div3, where he lost all his games. 8)))
transistor please.. you cant complain about that; you didnt allow me last week as a medic main playing div 4 to play engi. so please dont even start with this shit
Ah well, people you can calm your tits now. Match is played – Match is over.
Me and their leader have burried our hatchets – so rub them boobs and move on.
That supposedly div 2 merc medic is me, and I don’t play Medic anymore seriously. I’m on the dugongs as a backup engineer.
And if you guys think that a rusty Medic, who’s highest offically played div is 4, on badwater no fucking less, who isn’t even maincalling, is going to carry a team, then you must really be out of your bonkers. I’ve merced for div 5 teams in the past and have gotten no complaints from the opposing team that he was “too good.” Heck you or the admins never turned to me and requested demos either.
Such is the power of karma.
Much love to the waffles! Would enjoy mercing again
lol you are what you play, you played div 2, which is way above div 5 no need to have a mental break down + be it div 3 or 2 still above div 5 :P
I’m just trying to prove a point. If a player is on a team and plays this and this class, doesn’t mean he’s div 2 level at every class he plays. I did illustrate I’m a backup engie only, and that’s as close to div 2 as I am right now. So…yeah.
Sorry if I did somewhat get mad, but you guys really should have looked into it or let an admin talk to the merc, not just straight out deny him, don’t you think?
I like to disallow people of a higher div not because of the class they play but more because of the comms they can bring.
Happened to me to many times in games where people get mercs that are higher divs and “offclass” to merc and end up just carrying the team :P
Hard to imagine a Medic doing any good in the battlefield. :p
Plus, Transisitor told me that his teammate would be maincalling, other than uber advantages and suggestions I wouldn’t have said much, probably as much as any div. It’s like you were saying that I could have overhauled strategies for the team in 5 minutes. :D
But let’s not string comments. The medic they brought along in the end was really impressive.
I just had to have my say in this because I didn’t really see the logic, is all.
So gg and good luck warder and both teams for the rest of the season. :3
Is it possible to get the logs of this match uploaded?
Quite frankly some off the things said that evening were a lowpoint in all I witnessed in my tf2 career.
Dear teams The Tiny Waffles and Xenon
Please upload the demos of wardemon, Executer, Closo and Transistor within 72 hours or face a penalty in accordance with the General ETF2L Rules.
You have to use the ETF2L demo upload system for archives under 60 MB, third party hoster links will be ignored.
Minor warnings for missing demos can be removed later after talking to an admin, as long as the minor warnings of your team did not stack up to a major warning yet.
I request the demo of Dejvi. http://etf2l.org/forum/user/90404/
I request the demo of Dejvi. http://etf2l.org/forum/user/90404/
Please give it to me, Transistor.
I request the Stv of our match http://etf2l.org/matches/47398/
Please give it here on the Match page.
There is no stv for this match. Get POV instead.
As I’ve previously mentioned (could be it got lost in all the quick messages above) is there a possibility to get the logs off this match?
Thank you in advance :)
i got my pov there if you can’t download it add me and i’ll send it by pm with dropbox
No logs nor stv can be had for this match.
Executer, where is that pov -would be fun to watch.
Every team in this division has bad things to tell bout these guys + you admins had a lot of proof delivered by Xenon. They trashtalk, kick people of their server when they see they cant win anymore anyways, they refuse to give stv’s and logs claiming they are corrupted, while its obviously to hide all the trashtalk and bad behaviour.
I talked to UGC admins bout it, they said: instant ban. What does etf2l do? leave them be, let pub behaviour like this sipple in comp. People who act like this dont belong here. If you allow this here ”cuz its not prem” then remove the lower divisions and make it a bunch of lobbies instead. If you still dont think there was enough proof then I know how etf2l will look over the years, why not send all the trashtalkers and childish arrogant pubbers an invitation to come straight to here?
Xenon lost fair and square (eventhough TW kinda forced them to accept their high div mercs), so Im not claiming they should get a default loss or sth, its their behaviour that should be punished, harshly in my opinion. People like that can’t be dealt with except with zero tolerance.
No, all evidence supplied was really weak or was outside our reach (either pre-game or text logs from steam conversations.)
Depending on the severity, it could warrant a warning, TW kept it pretty clean during the official
And that’s new for me, I haven’t received any evidence or complaints for that in this match, if it were I’d like to see it.
They gave POV demo’s, which are the only kind of demo’s for non-prem teams we require.
We’ve gone through all of them and the demos showed a perfectly normal game (although xenon had 2 medics in spawn, which eventually didn’t gain them a net advantage).
What it all boils down to is that admins need to stay neutral. All evidence supplied was circumstantial and there is no way to see who is wrong and who is right with this. The fact that other leagues would insta ban anyone without a proper review just solidifies the idea that there the level of quality control is too low (wow, that sounds really meta).
Xenon had several options:
-Use the match page for ALL communication
-Use a neutral server, ETF2L has several with automatic STV recording
-Contact an admin to directly when problems arose
-Supply strong evidence (POV demos, a VOD of one of the players or even just timestamped screenshots).
I know it looks like TW has been abusive, but there is no way for us to fact check that. Banning players or teams since others say they’re cunts is really iffy.
tl;dr
we can’t ban for stuff we can’t see, give us what we’re asking for and it’ll be done.
kick people of their server when they see they cant win anymore anyways,
And that’s new for me, I haven’t received any evidence or complaints for that in this match, if it were I’d like to see it.
Its called research, if you care about a case you look for things that might give evidence, like looking at other matchpages of TW, reactions from other teams :)
They trashtalk
Depending on the severity, it could warrant a warning, TW kept it pretty clean during the official
ofc they did, cuz that is sth which can be provided as evidence against them :)
srr bout the lay out, but Im terrible with that kind of stuffs xp