Season 16 powered by BlackOut Gaming
Division 5F
Week 1
Scheduled:
Results submitted:
by Mamba (Creative Mind)
Creative Mind
vs
Pulp-Fiction
3 - 3
Players
| Pulp-Fiction | (6) fyn, aidelos, KIMCHI, Sash, Freakythomsn, Neeko |
| Creative Mind | (6) Padow, Groumf, ceza, spolioz, Mamba, Phara |
Warnings
- Creative Mind [Minor] Using an unapproved merc
- Creative Mind [Minor] Special kind of rule break (1st time) - see match comment for explanation
Demos
- Map 2 (cp_gullywash_final1): First Person [Pruned] by Freakythomsn (97 Downloads)
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Because this match has not been scheduled by either of the teams, a default date has been set for this match.
The default date is: Sunday, 22 September 2013, 21:15
Please play this match on the appointed time and submit the results.
gl hf
Logs:
http://logs.tf/97312
http://logs.tf/97380
STV:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3217398/2013-09-23-20-38-blu_vs_red-cp_granary.dem
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3217398/2013-09-23-21-11-blu_vs_red-cp_gullywash_final1.dem
Dear teams, pls upload a status screenshot with all players on it. On your screenshot 2 players from Pulp Fiction are missing (melle49 and fyn).
And if you want to provide or have to provide STV demos pls use the ETF2L website to upload them. You can upload POV and STV demos through this link here:
http://etf2l.org/wp-admin/index.php?page=demo
Well played guys, good luck for the future.
Sorry guys, but we didn’t accept your merc Groumf. We got to know, that you use one a bit too late. Seriously, you could have told us that a bit earlier. Proving screenshots: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2e1xd34&s=5#.UkCyvYZsyqg https://i.imgur.com/v6rFGAG.png
As you wish, take the default win, it’s not representative of your team level and fair play.
I’m on the roster since three weeks, just forgot to signup on it… It is not fair to refuse me, but do as you wish. If i was a prem player, i will understand, but i’m not…
Def win ?? We said it to you between the first and the second map and you played the second map. Then you lost and some of you even ragequitted before the end. You KNEW that groumf was a not verified in the second map as Mamba told you and you PLAYED the map.
Too easy to claim a default win when you lose, poor kids.
Continue to act like this, that will probably avoid you to be relegated.
TF2 is a serious business.
One of ur Team-Mate joined our Team IN the match :p
Guys, I can only judge from the facts I can see on the match page right now, and that is an unapproved merc. For that, I must give a minor warning and a default loss.
If you have proof that the merc was approved, please provide it to an admin on IRC, and we will revisit the result.
If there is anything else that was wrong with this match, or if you have any sort of disupte that renders this default loss invalid, or in fact the wrong way around, you must contact an admin on IRC, so it can be discussed in more detail. Until you do so, this result stands.
For future reference, always use the match page to log proof of merc approval.
Our leader thought that Groumf was verified but between the first and the second map we noticed that he wasn’t. So we immediatly asked the opposite team if they allow it. They haven’t answered clearly but they played the second map, the status screen can prove that they were still there in the second map.
So what’s the problem guys ? If you refuse the merc why are you playing then ? Retards.
gg;)
desolé pour vous les gars , vous les avez déboité pourtant ! c est balot et vous montre l esprit de merde de certains. Go tout péter maintenant
Putin prendre un default win pour ça, êtes trop con aussi. Faut faire attention plein de team comme eux font ainsi… vraiment les boules pour vous.
Je vais écrire en français, ces abrutis méritent pas que j’écrivent dans une langue qu’ils comprennent.
J’enc*** les règles, j’enc*** le classement, j’enc*** cette défaite par défaut. Dans mon cœur, les résultats sont là et ni mon honneur et ma fierté n’ont été bafoué. Ce comportement de merde de la part de mes adversaires est devenu une motivation : celle de me donner à fond et de tout péter.
De toutes façons, ça ne change rien à la validité des screens de fin de match, donc bon, qu’importe. Si ces tarlouzes ne savent pas assumer leur défaite autrement qu’en refusant ma participation au match à cause d’une règle à la con, et bien, tant mieux pour eux, j’espère juste qu’ils se feront péter par toute la division.
(To Spike Himself, i know you are just doing your job so don’t worry, my message above does not concern you)
alor, je comprends ta déception, je suis très désolé, mais telles sont les règles
Je le comprends bien. Même si dans notre situation, les règles s’avèrent particulièrement injustes. Mais c’est le jeu, et je respecte votre décision. On essaieras de faire de notre mieux pour rattraper ce retard…
Well it’s not just like if Groumf had been verified like 1 hour after the ends of the match… Wait… Oh it is!
I don’t know how many time it takes to be verified but if we had played like 2 hours later it would have been ok…
Anyway you’ve find the fault in the rules, awesome, well done kids.
@Freakythomsn
BTW don’t say “sorry” you’re not….
Par contre, leur demo n’a pas était demandé en tant que last sur etf2l? et ils ont bien joué a 2 snipers?
We ve never played with 2 sniper
On gully tick near 104000…
After your fail push on our last, you were having 2 snipers at respawn…
But I admit it you didn’t played a long with them… :D
Now, don’t blame CFG who allow 2 snipers ’cause it was your server…
“ces abrutis méritent pas que j’écrivent dans une langue qu’ils comprennent.”
Malheureusement pour toi, je comprend le francais, Groumf.
I think we’re done here. You had some foul play going on and I already discussed everything with Phara. I can provide the chat log on request.
Btw, we actually played with two Snipers for 124 Ticks being not even 2 seconds. We had some bad communication there and one was right about to switch back.
I actually was really sorry, that the match had to go this way, but you’re right Padow. As your side is so rude to us, I’m not really having sympathy for your team anymore.
Good Bye.
On accepte leur horaire d’enfant de 10 ans et ils nous remercie en def loose, thx. I thinked that you had accepted “groumf” when i asked you between the first and the second map but you didn’t reply and you started the game. WHY did we play the second map if you want to def win ??
I’m not stupid, even if you didn’t understand french, it would be obvious you will use translation software like Google Translate which works very good with french language.
Whatever the results decided by admins, we won, screenshots are the best proof.
You know what is honor ? There is a very good diction in France which is : “La plus belle des victoires, c’est celle d’assumer la défaite.” (I let you translate ;)).
If you really had sympathy for my team, you would have shut your mouth and assume your defeat.
This was my last comment on this match page. I wish you to be destroyed by another teams of this division.
Auf Wiedersehen ;)
this was a great read, I thank yous for the drama
classy
Dear teams, the default win for Pulp Fiction stays for the first map because Creative Mind used an unapproved merc. In addition to this they receive a minor warning for this. But before the second map team Pulp Fiction was informed (see screenshots in the match comments, etc.) that one player was not verified and would count as a merc.
That was the moment to contact an admin if you want to claim a default win and NOT to ready up.
Therefore the original result for the second map was reinstalled. If you have questions regarding this case feel free to contact an admin on IRC.
Furthermore team Creative Mind receives a minor warning for abusing the retry command twice in the match.
In addition to that, I apologise for the mistake.
Thank you JohnnyBambo, even in my mind, we won the match.
Spike Himself : No problem :)
Who use the retry command? Oo
Shame on my compatriots. Really sad to see that once more a def win is more important than fairplay.
You should have just said, “well make sure that you ask before the match, next time. But we’ll allow anyways.”.
Gl for the rest of the season creative mind.
Okay, the season is over. I’ve not been posting that earlier because I was afraid that the Frenchies might start to flame again, but I want to clarify why we took the Defwin and show that we aren’t the bad guys here.
We didn’t want to claim a cheap def win, but Creative Mind had the worst style of playing I’ve ever seen in an official and they didn’t show fairplay at all.
Firstly, the thing with the merc. Seriously, they could’ve told us that earlier but that was kind of okay, even though this already showed that they are no real gentlemen.
But than they turned to play unfair on Gully after loosing the first 2 points. As Johnny mentioned, they exploited the retry command. Furtheron, a team member of them switched to our team for checking uber and switched back afterwards. You can clearly see that at tick 86500 at my FOV. At this point, we already started to get mad at Creative Mind and sadly that led us to play quite badly and lose.
Another thing we saw on Gully was that one Scout, Padow, who was warping quite extremely ( ticks 55000 & 107000 ). But even though he was warping heavily, a view team members said, that the scout was still doing meatshots and “this can’t just be lag”. I can’t confirm this because I wasn’t really influenced of that as Medic.
TL;DR We took the Defwin because Creative Mind was playing against the rules and we suspected a Scout to cheat.
I’m not even surprised, that Creative Mind is one of the only teams to get more than a major warning this season. But I’m done with this now. Had a nice season after this match.
Good Bye CM