Season 16 powered by BlackOut Gaming
Division 4B
Week 1
Scheduled:
Results submitted:
by Dark (Kaneco eSports)
This match does not count as one of the teams dropped from this competition.
Guru Gaming
vs
Kaneco eSports
0 - 6
SteamID Screenshots: A
Players
| Kaneco eSports | (6) Lemon Juice, Dois, Dark, Barrow, kAsh.pt, mya |
| Guru Gaming | (5) Niketic, Henghast, FlagZero, Susu, Dompa |
| Unrostered | (1) JackyLegs |
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Because this match has not been scheduled by either of the teams, a default date has been set for this match.
The default date is: Sunday, 22 September 2013, 21:15
Please play this match on the appointed time and submit the results.
gl, Dompa!
hvala!!! AJMO NAŠI :) !!! gl
gud lak!!!
merc allowed by dompa:
http://etf2l.org/forum/user/18302/
also merc allowed by dark:
http://etf2l.org/forum/user/71808/
chat about the server
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: dompa
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: bring you all team
guru{Dompa}: yes
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: and check it out
guru{Dompa}: sec
guru{Dompa}: btw, if u dont wanna play on this server
guru{Dompa}: we can make arrangement
guru{Dompa}: 1 map our server ( etf2l ) 1 map your server
guru{Dompa}: first map gran on etf2l server ?
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: dompa im not gonna play with 200 ping demo
guru{Dompa}: btw our merc is offline currently
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: try this server
guru{Dompa}: but im not goin to play with french server which is laggy
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: if u get 200 ping well get another
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: why is laggy you got 60 pign?
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: just get everyone in here
guru{Dompa}: ping and lag are different
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: looking for an admin to solve this
guru{Dompa}: btw
guru{Dompa}: Be reasonable regarding servers
Both teams can agree on the server which both maps are played on, or agree to play one map on each clan’s server. If you can’t agree to play either way then the game must be played on an ETF2L league server (please contact an admin to arrange this).
Make sure the server is adequate before you start – complaints cannot be made after the match.
guru{Dompa}: 5.1 rule
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: just a sec
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: contacting admin
guru{Dompa}: sure
guru{Dompa}: we want to play 1 map
guru{Dompa}: on this server
guru{Dompa}: if we cant get both
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: sure ill say that to the admin
guru{Dompa}: can u give me ip
guru{Dompa}: from your server
guru{Dompa}: to check
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: connect 37.59.56.110:27040 ; password private
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: dompa you that guy count as a merc riight?
guru{Dompa}: and what is your decision ?
if both teams cant agree on a server, then a default server has to be used
thats an etf2l server
i can offer a uk or german hosted server
or you can try one of theirs server
this is german server anyway
yes
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: we dont want to play on the german one
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: you dont want a french
guru{Dompa}: its official server from etf2l
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: so im guessing you dont want the uk one
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: dompa
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: we do not agree on etf2l servers
guru{Dompa}: but we’re not happy with your server, and etf2l server is the only answer
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: so uk server then
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: its an etf2l
guru{Dompa}: ask for uk server
guru{Dompa}: and call him
guru{Dompa}: on uk server
guru{Dompa}: to decide
guru{Dompa}: to play on german or uk
guru{Dompa}: will u ask admin for uk server ?
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: barrow is doing that i guess
guru{Dompa}: okay
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: and dompa
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: i did not accept that merc
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: caned
guru{Dompa} is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: uk or french?
guru{Dompa} is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
guru{Dompa}: its up to you. you have to decide if the german or uk hosted server
guru{Dompa}: we say german
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: well if one team clearly has bad pings on the DE server
[20:32] and both teams have similar pings on UK
[20:32] then UK it is
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: dompa its uk
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: admin said
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: and it does not have whitlist…
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: and btw i guess french its better for you
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: than uk
guru{Dompa}: uk
guru{Dompa}: would be last option
guru{Dompa}: and I say lets play on uk server
chat about merc:
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: now dompa
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: i did not accept caned
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: its not verified on your team list
guru{Dompa}: well thats just 1 minor warning
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: so you are playing with a not accepted merc right?
guru{Dompa}: he’s not merc
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: it is
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: cuz its not verified on etf2l
guru{Dompa}: why is your main reason
guru{Dompa}: for disallowing caned ?
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: i accepted 1 already
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: use that one
guru{Dompa}: he’s not playing
guru{Dompa}: he’s offline
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: not my fault
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: you accepted my merc which im not gonna use
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: i accepted yours
guru{Dompa}: well if you’re goin to be dick then go on
guru{Dompa}: why making drama
guru{Dompa}: besides just playing it
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: not making drama
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: just following rules
guru{Dompa}: which rule ?
guru{Dompa}: for merc ?
guru{Dompa}: and what correctly ?
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: no mercs allowed unless opponent agrees
guru{Dompa}: we can have 2 mercs if you allow them
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: i allowed one
guru{Dompa}: even 3
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: which is not playing
guru{Dompa}: and you dont anyone
guru{Dompa}: of them
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: and just 2
guru{Dompa}: so your main reason for disallowing our merc is
guru{Dompa}: just we had one accepted ?
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: just go i did not accept your merc
guru{Dompa}: tell me reason
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: i already accepted 1
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: use that merc
guru{Dompa}: we also accepted your merc, so anyway on your side
guru{Dompa}: we would agree
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: dompa just stop
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: lets play
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: i did not accept your merc
guru{Dompa}: we have 6
guru{Dompa}: lets play
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: but a merc i did not accept
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: dompa let be clear
guru{Dompa}: because you want default win
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: you use that merc you get def win
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: default loss*
guru{Dompa}: well
guru{Dompa} is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
guru{Dompa}: well if you dont accept him which isnt quite big issue
guru{Dompa}: and your main reason for not allowing him isnt quite well
guru{Dompa}: u didnt tell me
guru{Dompa}: main reason yet
guru{Dompa}: for not allowing
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: i dont have to give you a reason
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: i said no
guru{Dompa}: you have to give a reason
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: its no
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: no i do not
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: where does it says on the rules?
guru{Dompa}: are you goin to be first team to deny merc just for default win for your team ?
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: not the first and not the last
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: im following the rules thats all
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: simply as that
guru{Dompa}: but in rules you can accept more than 1 merc
guru{Dompa}: and you simply dont want to
guru{Dompa}: doesnt*
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: dompa we do not accept caned as merc
guru{Dompa} is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
guru{Dompa}: will u accept
guru{Dompa}: another ?
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: im not accepting anymore mercs
guru{Dompa}: lol
guru{Dompa}: so basically you’re making default win only because you wont accept anyone
guru{Dompa}: our merc isnt online
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: its not my fault that he is not online
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: dompa enought
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: enough*
guru{Dompa}: its not mine as well
guru{Dompa}: give us merc
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: no i already said no
guru{Dompa}: just play
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: dompa stop pls
guru{Dompa}: you stop
guru{Dompa}: lets play
guru{Dompa}: why you dont wanna play
guru{Dompa}: because you’re affraid maybe
guru{Dompa}: and you can easily win
guru{Dompa}: this game
guru{Dompa}: by getting default
guru{Dompa}: and get on the wall of shame
guru{Dompa}: just play
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: play with the merc i accepted or with 5
guru{Dompa}: we’ll play with unverified player
guru{Dompa}: and you can complain
guru{Dompa}: after the match
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: not verified = merc
guru{Dompa}: its by the rules
guru{Dompa}: we gonna play with unverified merc
guru{Dompa}: ten
guru{Dompa}: then*
guru{Dompa}: and contact admin later
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: admin says he has to leave the server before ready up
guru{Dompa}: that we just played with unverified merc
guru{Dompa}: can u give me
guru{Dompa}: link
guru{Dompa}: just copy paste
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: just a sec
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: [20:59] hi BARROWW
[20:59] hi
[20:59] emb told me that you need help with something
[20:59] ya
[21:00] how can i help you then? ^_^
[21:01] We wanted to request a default win atm to us
[21:01] because the other team is using now allowed mercs
[21:01] if you deny a merc
[21:01] he should leave
[21:01] and ask you for another one
[21:02] We allowed 1 merc before
[21:02] but they want another one
[21:02] because the first one didnt show up
[21:02] and we dont allowed it
[21:02] so they should either play with 5 or you allow a merc for them
[21:03] we dont want to allow a merc
[21:03] so they have to play with 5 or default?
[21:03] yup
[21:03] they are being rude and imature with our team so we dont have to help them
[21:03] or they can get another player from his team
[21:03] do you have any problems with the server?
[21:03] emb told me something about that
[21:03] we already skipped that part
[21:04] ah ok
[21:04] emb fixed it before
[21:04] then
[21:04] they should play with 5 or leave
[21:04] they dont want to leave tho
[21:04] in that case
[21:04] you will have to take screenshots
[21:04] of them being rude
[21:05] or refusing to leave/play with 5
[21:05] so we actually have a guarantee that what you are saying it’s true
[21:05] in what server are you playing on?
[21:05] UK #1
[21:05] we have the screens
[21:05] you can check the logs if needed
chat about server
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: dompa
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: bring you all team
guru{Dompa}: yes
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: and check it out
guru{Dompa}: sec
guru{Dompa}: btw, if u dont wanna play on this server
guru{Dompa}: we can make arrangement
guru{Dompa}: 1 map our server ( etf2l ) 1 map your server
guru{Dompa}: first map gran on etf2l server ?
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: dompa im not gonna play with 200 ping demo
guru{Dompa}: btw our merc is offline currently
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: try this server
guru{Dompa}: but im not goin to play with french server which is laggy
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: if u get 200 ping well get another
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: why is laggy you got 60 pign?
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: just get everyone in here
guru{Dompa}: ping and lag are different
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: looking for an admin to solve this
guru{Dompa}: btw
guru{Dompa}: Be reasonable regarding servers
Both teams can agree on the server which both maps are played on, or agree to play one map on each clan’s server. If you can’t agree to play either way then the game must be played on an ETF2L league server (please contact an admin to arrange this).
Make sure the server is adequate before you start – complaints cannot be made after the match.
guru{Dompa}: 5.1 rule
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: just a sec
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: contacting admin
guru{Dompa}: sure
guru{Dompa}: we want to play 1 map
guru{Dompa}: on this server
guru{Dompa}: if we cant get both
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: sure ill say that to the admin
guru{Dompa}: can u give me ip
guru{Dompa}: from your server
guru{Dompa}: to check
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: connect 37.59.56.110:27040 ; password private
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: dompa you that guy count as a merc riight?
guru{Dompa}: and what is your decision ?
if both teams cant agree on a server, then a default server has to be used
thats an etf2l server
i can offer a uk or german hosted server
or you can try one of theirs server
this is german server anyway
yes
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: we dont want to play on the german one
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: you dont want a french
guru{Dompa}: its official server from etf2l
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: so im guessing you dont want the uk one
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: dompa
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: we do not agree on etf2l servers
guru{Dompa}: but we’re not happy with your server, and etf2l server is the only answer
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: so uk server then
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: its an etf2l
guru{Dompa}: ask for uk server
guru{Dompa}: and call him
guru{Dompa}: on uk server
guru{Dompa}: to decide
guru{Dompa}: to play on german or uk
guru{Dompa}: will u ask admin for uk server ?
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: barrow is doing that i guess
guru{Dompa}: okay
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: and dompa
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: i did not accept that merc
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: caned
guru{Dompa} is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: uk or french?
guru{Dompa} is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
guru{Dompa}: its up to you. you have to decide if the german or uk hosted server
guru{Dompa}: we say german
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: well if one team clearly has bad pings on the DE server
[20:32] and both teams have similar pings on UK
[20:32] then UK it is
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: dompa its uk
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: admin said
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: and it does not have whitlist…
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: and btw i guess french its better for you
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: than uk
guru{Dompa}: uk
guru{Dompa}: would be last option
guru{Dompa}: and I say lets play on uk server
Logs
http://logs.tf/100402
http://logs.tf/100365
chat about server
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: dompa
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: bring you all team
guru{Dompa}: yes
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: and check it out
guru{Dompa}: sec
guru{Dompa}: btw, if u dont wanna play on this server
guru{Dompa}: we can make arrangement
guru{Dompa}: 1 map our server ( etf2l ) 1 map your server
guru{Dompa}: first map gran on etf2l server ?
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: dompa im not gonna play with 200 ping demo
guru{Dompa}: btw our merc is offline currently
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: try this server
guru{Dompa}: but im not goin to play with french server which is laggy
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: if u get 200 ping well get another
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: why is laggy you got 60 pign?
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: just get everyone in here
guru{Dompa}: ping and lag are different
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: looking for an admin to solve this
guru{Dompa}: btw
guru{Dompa}: Be reasonable regarding servers
Both teams can agree on the server which both maps are played on, or agree to play one map on each clan’s server. If you can’t agree to play either way then the game must be played on an ETF2L league server (please contact an admin to arrange this).
Make sure the server is adequate before you start – complaints cannot be made after the match.
guru{Dompa}: 5.1 rule
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: just a sec
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: contacting admin
guru{Dompa}: sure
guru{Dompa}: we want to play 1 map
guru{Dompa}: on this server
guru{Dompa}: if we cant get both
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: sure ill say that to the admin
guru{Dompa}: can u give me ip
guru{Dompa}: from your server
guru{Dompa}: to check
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: connect 37.59.56.110:27040 ; password private
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: dompa you that guy count as a merc riight?
guru{Dompa}: and what is your decision ?
if both teams cant agree on a server, then a default server has to be used
thats an etf2l server
i can offer a uk or german hosted server
or you can try one of theirs server
this is german server anyway
yes
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: we dont want to play on the german one
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: you dont want a french
guru{Dompa}: its official server from etf2l
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: so im guessing you dont want the uk one
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: dompa
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: we do not agree on etf2l servers
guru{Dompa}: but we’re not happy with your server, and etf2l server is the only answer
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: so uk server then
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: its an etf2l
guru{Dompa}: ask for uk server
guru{Dompa}: and call him
guru{Dompa}: on uk server
guru{Dompa}: to decide
guru{Dompa}: to play on german or uk
guru{Dompa}: will u ask admin for uk server ?
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: barrow is doing that i guess
guru{Dompa}: okay
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: and dompa
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: i did not accept that merc
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: caned
guru{Dompa} is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: uk or french?
guru{Dompa} is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
guru{Dompa}: its up to you. you have to decide if the german or uk hosted server
guru{Dompa}: we say german
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: well if one team clearly has bad pings on the DE server
[20:32] and both teams have similar pings on UK
[20:32] then UK it is
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: dompa its uk
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: admin said
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: and it does not have whitlist…
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: and btw i guess french its better for you
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: than uk
guru{Dompa}: uk
guru{Dompa}: would be last option
guru{Dompa}: and I say lets play on uk server
Pathetic bunch of fannies, would rather play 5v6 than 6v6 so they can get easy points
Fair play award for Dark!!! (irony)
“[21:03] they are being rude and imature with our team so we dont have to help them”
Thank you for describing us how we are. At least we won’t provoke opponent team to start game without 6 players.
Sportsmanship: Zero points.
Have fun.
Have fun aswell :)
feel sorry for guru. Looks like someone needed that win really hard…
WTB nazi admins to just ban them without remorse.
Dompa has not interpreted all the rules correctly.
“guru{Dompa}: well thats just 1 minor warning” – No. Using a player who is not in the roster and not approved to merc by the opponent is a minor warning and a default loss, making it pointless to insist on playing with the merc you know is not approved.
“guru{Dompa}: we can have 2 mercs if you allow them. even 3” – No. You can only use a maximum of up to 2 mercs, even if your opponent would allow you to use more. The match result would be overturned.
It is also wrong to assume that if your opponent allowed player A as merc, he will also allow player B to help out, especially if the allowed merc is listed in the match comments.
Some general advice would be to inform your opponent about everything that is not going according to plan and always be polite, especially if you need a favour from them (which allowing a merc counts as).
SpacePig: your team is bad
Dark fm-eSports.tf2: yep, we suck
No point to keep this discussion since your friends just want to defend Guru. No problem with that. Have fun and gl on season