Season 15 powered by BlackOut Gaming

Division 4A

Week 1

Date Scheduled:
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by ETF2L Staff

This match does not count as one of the teams dropped from this competition.

Default Win

European Addict! e-Sports // Black vs Finland SNSD eSports ATK-Gaming
0 - 6

SourceTV: connect 176.57.141.52:27025

Warnings


12 Comments

  1. Default Date said:

    Because this match has not been scheduled by either of the teams, a default date has been set for this match.
    The default date is: Sunday, 05 May 2013, 20:30
    Please play this match on the appointed time and submit the results.

  2. Random: iveR said:

    Good luck Addict!

  3. wackey: 4SKINGS said:

    gl addict black!!

  4. JackyLegs: 4SKINGS - SDCK! said:

    Bullshit, I was talking to the Leader all the time, 1 hour before the match, told him we won’t play and want to re-schedule, he also tried shceduling with me on Monday and asked me when :
    8:58 PM – Addict! JackyLegs: I used wildcard ok?
    9:19 PM – Punkka: when can you play it
    9:19 PM – Punkka: monday at what time?
    9:19 PM – Punkka: sorry we had game
    9:19 PM – Punkka: 20 cet?
    9:24 PM – Punkka: answer when you can
    And then removed me because of this, his excuse was :
    10:12 PM – Punkka: it was maitomies
    10:12 PM – Punkka: not me
    10:12 PM – Addict! JackyLegs: DUDE
    10:12 PM – Addict! JackyLegs: ARe you kidding me
    10:13 PM – Addict! JackyLegs: I’m contacting an admin right now
    10:13 PM – Addict! JackyLegs: You will be punished.
    10:13 PM – Addict! JackyLegs: Dude.
    10:13 PM – Addict! JackyLegs: Why?
    10:13 PM – Addict! JackyLegs: Why?
    10:13 PM – Punkka: it wasnt me
    10:13 PM – Punkka: maitomies
    10:13 PM – Punkka: did it
    10:13 PM – Addict! JackyLegs: Talk to an admin, right now
    10:13 PM – Addict! JackyLegs: Contact him tell him it’s a mistake
    10:13 PM – Addict! JackyLegs: We agreed!
    10:13 PM – Addict! JackyLegs: I even clicked on the wildcard
    10:13 PM – Addict! JackyLegs: And told you that
    10:14 PM – Addict! JackyLegs: I got the chat
    This is outraging, I even talked to skyride about the wildcard, he didn’t answer me.

  5. BAITO: ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡9 said:

    1: You said wildcarding now would be just waste, ok your fault because u diddn´t use wildcard.

    2: Both teams agreed the date and u diddn´t show up or we diddn´t agree new time for the match

    3: Is skyride an admin?

  6. JackyLegs: 4SKINGS - SDCK! said:

    1)Yes, I did said wildcarding is a waste, but I pressed the wildcard since “Punkka” was pulling my leg and stalling, so I decided to click on use wildcard, yet nothing happened, it was on 19:42 CET.

    2)Both teams agreed, and Punkka agreed on Monday, even asked me what time, proof will be seen in the screenshots I posted, we agreed on this date but I talked AN HOUR before the match about that we can’t play so you guys basicaly agreed to play with us on another time.

    3)AFAIK Skyride was an admin, at least that’s what I thought, I remembered he was an admin, and he was the most available admin at the time, so I contacted him yet he didn’t respond, so then I went to contact an admin through IRC, and then found out Skyride wasn’t an admin.

    Listen, overall, it’s a really lame move by you guys, instead of playing and proving that you can play and show off your skills with honor, you decide to pull a backdoor move on us and go and claim that you get default win, go on to a server WHILE YOU KNOW THAT WE WON’T BE THERE!, and take a screenshot.
    Also, if you go on a server, hmm, Idk, how about calling us to the server to play instead of f*cking removing me from steam!
    That’s the most cheap move I have ever witnessed on ETF2L.
    Seriously, coming clean now, would make you guys look alot better, instead of getting an easy def win you could actually play with us, since that’s the meaning of ETF2L and TF2 in genera.

  7. BAITO: ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡9 said:

    No, we diddn´t agree, we asked a time, and no answer in 1 hour, and match time was gone, so it was just normal move to 1: remove u (since we diddn´t need u anymore) and 2: take default win if the time is gone, u don´t answer= u don´t wanna play, or u don´t use the wildcard, anyways the question is still why are u saying 1 hour before the match u don´t want to play and you don´t even use the wildcard, Plz next time just play on the time u have agreed, 1 hour before the game u are whining about 1 missing player, take a merc or really use the wildcard and check the using worked and if it doesn´t work take screenshots about it to prove it to etf2l or something , it´s a better way than bad lies&excuses :)

  8. JackyLegs: 4SKINGS - SDCK! said:

    Like I told your leader, we can’t play, and as I told him “I used wildcard”, and yes I did click it, yet there was a problem with the “pop-up blocker” which I have on my internet browser, and after I didn’t answer you I thought I could take my time on answering you because you asked me for the time and then I went to eat, shower etc’, but you guys never called us to the server to play with you, now did you?, you went on the server KNOWINGLY THAT WE WON’T BE THERE, since you didn’t:
    A)Call us into the server.
    B)Ask us if the Wildcard worked since I told your leader I used it, yet something happened, when you saw that the wildcard wasn’t used you didn’t ask me “Hey, did you use wildcard? it didn’t work, so what now? def win?”
    Oh no baby you went on and claimed def win, easiest thing to do, now isn’t it?
    Oh and btw, I DO HAVE SCREENSHOTS, I did prove to ETF2L everything that I claimed in the comment section, and guess what, that one player is a key-formation in our team, without him, our whole practiced week would have gone to the dump, we practiced like hell to this game with our team, played almost everyday, and now that he’s gone, we decided to wildcard it and play on other time, but it DIDN’T WORK (Pop-up Blocker).
    Why don’t we want to play? we were all here, we were ready, and we were waiting for our last guy, and then we would have played, but he didn’t show up so we decided to (again) wildcard it.
    However, we did want to re-schedule since really this is silly and we thought you were nice enough to not let us waste a wildcard on our first match, and you did want to do it up until you decided that “u don´t wanna play, or u don´t use the wildcard”, so lets remove him, go on the server, take a screenshot, and claim def win on us.
    How is that moral?, how does that show us that what you did was right?, I didn’t answer to the “what time?” question because I was missing a player who didn’t tell me what time can he play, and to avoide that inconvenience of missing a player at the time of the match I decided to wait with the answer.
    “it´s a better way than bad lies&excuses :)”, you really have the balls to to call my words “lies&excuses :)”, while what you have done has no excuse, and unfortunately I have proof, I proved to the ETF2L admins already everything.
    This just proves, how much you wanted to play.
    I hope, that you guys get what you deserver, and justice will be made.
    And WHY WON’T I WANT TO PLAY IF I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT PLAYING ON ANOTHER DATE AN HOUR BEFORE THE MATCH?, WHY?!
    We practiced so long, everyday working on tactics and trying to improve so we can win the match, and then seeing that in mere moments it all goes to the trash.

  9. BAITO: ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡9 said:

    Kk, but the other thing is like about the time we playing, we were ready to play on the agreed day and praticed there, it´s one of our playing dates on that week since u agreed it, everybody are gonna have vacations and shit, so the thing u diddn´t want to play makes our games even harder because we need to find another free date from somewhere, now because u diddn´t answer in time we already scheduled a game for wednessday and are gonna pratice on monday, we usually play 1-3 times a week so the thing is just about the time, u missed the time u agreed, but yes 1: I have balls to say some shit and 2: I believe u used the wildcard then, but still saying the default win is there because our times are pretty full, u diddn´t answer about the monday and we needed already to schedule our time for next week fast :/ sry mate, sometimes it makes people to do things like that, but prefer organized than we drop from etf2l totally

  10. BAITO: ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡9 said:

    It also seems u have only 5 players in your roster right now, so you would prefer try to get the last player to the roster than speaking about default win or not, dropping from the league is still the worst thing which can happen

  11. kKaltUu: UbeR | - -chess- said:

    Hi, after discussion we decided to keep the current status as it is (default win for TBSSAFO).

    Going on rule 3.3:

    3.3 Scheduled Matches can only be postponed by using a Wildcard or by contacting an admin (if both teams agree)

    Once a game is scheduled and entered in the Calendar, it can only be postponed beyond the match deadline if both teams agree or if one team uses a Wildcard. If both teams agree to the reschedule (for example because there is a LAN) and want to postpone the match please contact an admin an explain the case. Both teams will receive a warning for any match unplayed after its match deadline.

    Next to that, the contact us page is directly accessible from our main page, and brings you directly to our IRC webchat applet Which you can find here .

    If a wildcard doesn’t work, you can let an admin help you with it. Contacting the admins after the default has been claimed is too little too late.
    We expect all teams to be proactive in their decisions, even if things go wonky.

    Default Dates are binding, and have always been binding! The fact that Maitomies claimed an default win is understandable in it’s own right.
    Addict! could’ve claimed it likewise, since there was no new accepted proposal.

    Therefore the Warning and Default Loss will stay as they are. If anyone has any question, feel free to contact an ETF2L admin.

  12. JackyLegs: 4SKINGS - SDCK! said:

    I did contact an admin, at least that’s what I thought!!!, he was an admin, and to be honest, at the time that you panic like hell that you see you lost a match for no appereant reason, you go to the most fast resource that you have, an admin on your friends list, but hey, that’s what I thought…
    Come on man, this whole thing could have been avoided if I didn’t have the f*cking Pop-up blocker..
    Please, I would like to appeal about this decision, and please at least give us another shot, I did everything right except for the “contacting an admin”, which I was sure I did, if I would have known he wasn’t an admin I would have contacted as fast as I can to the a REAL admin, believe me, losing a match over this is ridiciouls!
    I beg of the other leader to be human and understand mistakes can happen and make time to play with us on anyday they will pick, please, let us play.
    If playing on another date, even tomarrow, is needed, we will, just make time, just an hour, to prove that you deserve this win, and not claim it so easily and I can’t honestly believe that you think that this act that you have done is morally right, please, we are trying so hard to prove ourselves in this league, and I believe you guys are aswell.
    I appeal to the admins, in hope that they will re-schedule the match and give us a shot to prove ourselvess, please, don’t let a silly mistake as “contacting the wrong admin” put the team down, and perhaps breaking us a part, as you can see a guy left us already (not because of this reason, personal issues), but we do have a sub who will (hopefully) join us before our 2nd week match.
    Thank you.

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