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Division 5A
Week 3
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Results submitted:
by .Constantine (Full Aim Control)
Full Aim Control
vs
Team Negus
4 - 2
SteamID Screenshots: A
Players
| Team Negus | (5) KFC, Panromir, Jacket, Mayowa05, k33th |
| Full Aim Control | (5) FullHDieter, Hupu, quis9r, makke, .Constantine |
| Unrostered | (2) Chillerbear, LoRdy |
Warnings
- Full Aim Control [Minor] Violation of the pause rule
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Samstag, 6. Oktober 2012
14:49 – .G-RaY: hey
14:49 – .G-RaY: we would need a merc tomorrow
14:49 – .G-RaY: if its ok
14:49 – .G-RaY: http://etf2l.org/forum/user/25268/
15:02 – Negus | Nigel Wants KFC: NO PROB
15:02 – Negus | Nigel Wants KFC: woops caps
15:02 – Negus | Nigel Wants KFC: yeah, no problem
glhfhfhfhf
http://etf2l.org/forum/user/63057/
merc SDK for Team Negus allowed
*if needed
19:13 – .:[F-A-C]:. G-RaY: discussing
19:13 – .:[F-A-C]:. G-RaY: yeah
19:13 – .:[F-A-C]:. G-RaY: you can use him as a merc
http://etf2l.org/forum/user/14355/
since SDK cant play, merc LORDY (http://etf2l.org/forum/user/14355/) allowed
Requesting PoV demo for granary from G-RaY.
If you have STV demos, we would like to have those instead.
result is wrong, its FAC 4:2 Negus
IM SORRY, i submitted the wrong results, its 4-2 for .:[F-A-C]:.
4-5 on granary, after golden cap
2-1 on snakewater
going to upload the demo to file-upload.net because everytime i try to upload it to this page, im getting timed out
link will be submitted here, as a comment
its rapidshare:
https://rapidshare.com/files/1666198052/20121007_2031_cp_granary_red_blu.dem
match starts at tick 14000
and would an admin plz be so kind to change the results?
Hello teams Full Aim Community and Team Negus,
As per general rule 2.4, all players have to record demos from their point of view in all officials and provide them on request.
I would like to request a POV demo from players ChillerBear and makke who played in this game for team Full Aim Community and player LoRdy who played for Team Negus from the map cp_snakewater within 72 hours. (Until 14th October 10:30)
Failure to provide the demo in the mentioned timeframe results in a minor warning per player who failed to provide all of his demos. This warning can be removed if the demo is provided later.
Why ????
So FAC has to upload 3 demos in total and Negus only one?
oh no lordy didnt even played snakewater
stop spamming quis9r :P
here you go , AeZ, although , may i ask why chillerbear and my demo are requested?
http://www.file-upload.net/download-6682883/negus_2.dem.html
Yeah Lordy was mercing for Granary, but we had our main demoman, Alec, for snake so we can’t provide Lordys demo…
That’s my bad then, I’d like to get Team Negus’s demoman pov demo then, whoever played that class on snakewater.
This is happening due to a match complaint considering this match. With any other questions I would like you to use ‘!admin’ command via IRC.
Here’s alec’s demo: http://www.mediafire.com/?78v2txvkpzgibh6
chillerbears demo:
https://rapidshare.com/files/2960109224/20121007_2131_cp_snakewater_fac_negus.dem
Hello teams Full Aim Community and Team Negus,
Due to a match complaint from Team Negus a minor warning is being applied to team Full Aim Community for the pause rule abuse which is proven on all provided demos.
Please don’t forget that you are supposed to pause a game within 15 seconds of opponents request.
wow, kk
thats why you needed the demos?
1.) our medic had lags almost throughout the whole game, we requested a pause the first time, but just let it be afterwards, even if we could have requested it every time, this did cause some charge drops or no charge build up at all, and therefore some lost fights (and especially the golden cap)
2.) according to the rule: “The other team is then required to pause at the first appropriate time (e.g. not in the middle of a push)” we did pause it at the first appropriate time, as far as i can recall we were in the middle of a push to the last point -> not a violation of the rule
i checked my demo and we were pushing the last point when the pause was requested, we paused after the push was finished, so there was no rule abuse, plz remove the warning
3) team negus could pause by themselfs sv_pauseenable 1 !!
+ Team negus unpaused the game without telling us, which violates this rule: “You may not resume the game under any circumstances without giving proper warning to the other team.”
Read the rules before complaining …
You gave the warning to the wrong team, but its enough for us f you remove our warning …
@Quis9r, we had to pause it, which we did
You were told about the unpause on steam (there is a limit of messages being sent by clients during a pause on a server).
However to be fair we do not have any proof that we did inform you too.
this would save you from a warning, which i honestly dont care about
but our wrongly given warning is still there
Whether your warning stays or not, I just think the pause rule needs to be cleared up. In many cases, as in this one, the team is still in the middle of a push after 15 seconds and thus may not able to pause. Due to you receiving the warning, this would imply that the 15 seconds takes priority over the appropriate moment in which to pause, which should perhaps be made clearer in the rules…
Although G-ray, the first point you made about your medic lagging has nothing to do with the complaint or this discussion. You were free to request as many pauses as you wished but chose not to.
i was expecting an equally sporting behaviour from you, thats why i mentioned it
actually thats the reason why we played 4-2 and not 6-0, but we are ok with this, because we chose to
what we are not ok with, is that we got warned for following a rule
its not our fault that the rule isnt precise enough for this case
but exploiting this lack of set and readable priority to give us a warning is pretty lame
if you dont want to remove it, at least change it to something like minimal warning, which wouldnt give us a major warning on the next minor one
we dont intend or expect to get one, but people are people and mistakes can happen
something we could not know cant be worth a warning