Highlander Season 1
Division 5D
Week 3
Scheduled:
Results submitted:
by 1009 (Überium)
Cacahuetes No Stress
vs
Überium
3 - 3
Players
| Cacahuetes No Stress | (11) daZ, Sharigan, supersimplet, Crasydante, Fredou, Speirs, Clotaire, Pine2lu, albundi, Doui, Rastauren |
| Überium | (11) brett., Farran, Tidas, RichTT, The Spammish Intermi, Adam_, Trellis, Kyusuke, possibly, 1009, Vlad |
| Unrostered | (1) Geddoe |
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Is there any day of the week that is especially good for you?
Hi !
Can you play the match on December 4 ?
I’d prefer not to play on a Sunday, can you do 28, 29 or 30?
Ok, i see with my mates
I propose to play the match on Novembre the 29th
21.00 CET?
Yes 21h00 CET
22h00 CET would be better for us, sorry. English mind. Keep making the mistake. I proposed the date through the ETF2L admin page.
Could you reply to the proposal? I need some time to get my team together, too. :3
Could you reply to the proposal? I need some time to get my team together, too. :3 (sent twice because I forgot to press ‘challange’)
Because this match has not been scheduled by either of the teams, a default date has been set for this match.
The default date is: Tuesday, 29 November 2011, 21:30
Please play this match on the appointed time and submit the results.
That day is OK for us.
The day is ok for us too.
We propose 21h00CET and you propose 22h00CET. I think 21h30 is a good deal
We play on our serv or on your serv ?
I agree.
We’d prefer to play on your server, our server isn’t guaranteed to work.
First map Upward on CnS Server: nearly our entire team had horrible ping, we proposed to replay this because of the bad ping.
Second map Gravelpit on an ETF2L server: after ABBA 1-1 we would play another round, but some of CnS’s players had to leave and they were unable to get 8+ people in.
We proposed to either replay both maps or default win on Gravelpit.
From an IRC convo with ETF2L admin Crasp:
Crasp it’s up to to the teams to agree anyway, the only thing we would do is default the 3rd round of gravelpit
So !! During the second map (gravelpit) ending at [1:1] we had to do the third round, but some replacements had to be done in our side (two) cause it was getting late.
But suprise !! valve released a nice update that prevent our players to join us on the serv. So we just want to know if we have report the last round or the entire map ??
Concerning the ping, thez had a bad ping during the firts map on our serv, then we switched serv and WE had a bad ping so we aggreed to play for the equality. We have screenshots to pove it. So this fact is not relevent with the current situation.
So !! During the second map (gravelpit) ending at [1:1] we had to do the third round, but some replacements had to be done in our side (two) cause it was getting late.
But suprise !! valve released a nice update that prevent our players to join us on the serv. So we just want to know if we have report the last round or the entire map ??
Concerning the ping, they had a bad ping during the firts map on our serv, then we switched serv and WE had a bad ping so we aggreed to play for the equality. We have screenshots to pove it. So this fact is not relevent with the current situation.
The third round on gravelpit is default in Überium’s favour because Cacahuetes No Stress could not field a full team to play the decider round.
If the update played a role in this matter, please contact an admin on IRC and complain about it. I doubt it though, it took me about 5 seconds to download the update and leaving the game, updating, starting and joining the server should not take longer than 5 minutes.
Please submit a 1-2 win for Überium as result.
I doubt it though, it took me about 5 seconds to download the update and leaving the game, updating, starting and joining the server should not take longer than 5 minutes.
“The server is an old version of game”
U know dude ?
Alright, then talk to an admin or agree on replaying the round.
i’m agree replaying the third round
I mean the other team. If you want to save yourself and us some time, they should agree on replaying the map anyway because that is most likely our decision if some players quit the game after the second round (for whatever reason) and could not rejoin the server because it was not updated.
I’m not sure whether it matters, but it wasn’t a case of players rejoining, it was a case of getting 3 mercs because for 3 of them it was getting too late to play.
For started learn how to count. At the end, we were 7 (9-7=2) so 2 people were triying to connect (one from the original LU and one autorised merc) so this wasn’t a case of merc. So stop talking trash plz and start being constructive. do you want to replay the entire map or just the last round (for us it doesn’t matter)
And canfo when you say “Alright, then talk to an admin or agree on replaying the round.” aren’t you an admin ?
nope. I’m in the roster and i’ve not played the 1st map. I wanted to join but update. I’m not a merc. Why lie 1009 ?
My demo broke with the last patch but if you check the server logs for that day as it was on an official ETF2L server. Your team was asking for mercs..
A little summary :
We won the 1st map on our server : they have a bad ping (they choose ready whatever..)
Equality on the 2nd map : we have a bad ping, 2guys disconnect (1 – 1)
We contact :
– clotaire (registered) tried to connect : tf2 is not responding, and after tf2 updating
– we try with 1 merc, same problem
– same problem with all the merc of the earth, steam is updating !
If the tf2 update was not running, we would have had 1 registered & 1 merc;
End. (stop lame)
We have demo if admins need 1.
Just for the end, our merc & clotaire downloaded the tf2 update, but cannot connect on because the server was not updated.
We asked for updating the server : “too many time”
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yes ’cause they (the subs) weren’t able to launch TF2. So we were searching for solutions to play the round a soon as possible. Finaly none of them have been able to join us, so I don’t even understand why you’r talking about mercs here. Like the pings this is totaly not relevent.
How DARE you accuse 1009 of lying. You asked to use mercs,
http://vlad.ioah.co.uk/images/tf2/cns03.jpg
http://vlad.ioah.co.uk/images/tf2/cns04.jpg
I think you owe 1009 an apology.
That was in response to http://etf2l.org/matches/29445/#comment-194469
We asked to use merc : yes
Why :
Clotaire (who is not a merc) was supposed to join for the last round : he cannot because of the update
We tried to find 1 merc (to be 9 players) : we asked to 10000000000… merc, they cannot join because of the update.
Not a problem of merc, if it was, we would have played with 8 players (wit clotaire , him again :o): BUT NOBODY COULD CONNECT ! (clotaire, mercs, pope, obama …).
Your screenshot are not in the context of the real problem.
https://i.imgur.com/otRWh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/3S4Da.jpg
We were waiting at least 14-15 minutes, screenshots were taken in the same minute as the chat message. If 1009 is correct and you had 10 minutes to sort a team, you failed to notify us that there were update issues with your players. A message before this screenshot suggested that the mercs could not run TF2 but it doesn’t specify if it’s an update issue or not.
I think I wasn’t lying at all. I wasn’t under the impression that Clotaire would replace one of the guys that left, because all I heard was that “you had 3 mercs”. (see the demo, once Valve un-breaks the replays)
I agree that if the TF2 Update wouldn’t have been a problem you would only have had to use 1 merc, which we could have agreed on, providing he had been submitted to the Match Page (as I requested).
I will submit the results as is then wait for an ETF2L admin decision.
Maybe you weren’t lying and just misunderstanding indeed, but why talking about “a case of merc” since NOBODY was able to join the game ??
And we would have present our merc on the match page as soon as one of the 3 trying to join the game would have succeded. but since no one could join, that was useless. (like discusting about it in a first time) And by the way we didn’t need your agreement for this one.
So the thing is : do we have default loose ’cause we haven’t been able to show at least an 8players team or considering the unpredictible update do we have to report the map (or the round) ?
We will also wait for an admin decision. (if there is one…. somewhere…)
Yes, you do need our agreement for the first merc (to see whether he is acceptable, hasn’t had too much experience).
The update might not have played a role yet when trying to find new players, causing us to wait over 10 minutes and thus resulting in a default win for us. But again, let’s wait :)
Regardless of the admin call, no hard feelings, we just have a different view on what is fair I guess :)
“we just have a different view on what is fair I guess :)”
I agree !! When you give us 15 minutes to get our mercs :
http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=64972515minanddef211645.png
which was finaly impossible ’cause of the update, that’s why we canceled the match ONLY 2min later :
http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=208313rescedule221500.png
And then you try to def win this map by saying we made you wait over 10min i don’t think this is realy fair ! ;)
But nice try ! (yes i know how to screenshot too…)
That’s not how it works if you check my screenshots posted above then you asked us to wait 2 mins, 10 minutes later you tell us your mercs can’t join. The 15 minute period doesn’t start when you say “our mercs can’t join”
“After a map change, both teams have 10 minutes to organize, starting when the first player joins the server” in this case it was a round switch for the bo3.
the 15 minute period starts when you say “15min and edfault” (53:15) one min later we figure out that our players can’t join (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=581954valveprob217000.png) (54:18)
So you can’t say something on the serv and two days later change your mind because you so desperate to default win. that’s just more than lame.
So now pleeeeaaase stop wasting my time.
We are waiting for an admin decision, if they decide we should replay we will gladly replay the map.
Whooo !! The two team fight for the first place in div 1. What a fight !
English or how to win without played and French or peaple who undergo the guru of the steam power !
Who will win resercher of ease or cursed ?
W8 & c
Dear Cacahuetes No Stress and Überium
Would like to apologize for the delay.
Having reviewed this this, we have concluded that the last round for cp_gravelpit should be replayed because Cacahuetes No Stress did have replacement players available but could not get them on the server due to the TF2 update. I ask that there be no grudges held as Uberium were within their right to claim a default win within the time constraints. However this sort of issue is common in TF2 and we ask teams to be reasonable in understanding when problems such as TF2 updates are completely out of their hands and would have required a server update and every player updating TF2 (could take up to an hour).
We will give both teams a week from today (Thursday 15 December) to reschedule and submit the result of the remaining round. If you still have difficulty scheduling please inform an admin via IRC.
Good luck & Have fun.
Alright guys, let’s do it then! How is Mon 12 for you?
Ok for monday
20:30
GoKkun ! Britney: can we use a last (just one)
1009 / Pep: A what?
GoKkun ! Britney: a merc
1009 / Pep: ETF2L Link?
GoKkun ! Britney: http://etf2l.org/forum/user/43354/
GoKkun ! Britney: he is in M&Ms team
1009 / Pep: I’m searching for the LTF2C league he played in but can’t find it
1009 / Pep: OK I found it
1009 / Pep: Merc is fine
GoKkun ! Britney: http://www.tf2connexion.fr/index/team/view/id/28
1009 / Pep: Cheers :) no problem there.
GoKkun ! Britney: ok thank
gg guys, added the screenshots.