Season 9

Division 5f

Week 1

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Ireland Cream of the Crop vs Germany
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Cream of the Crop (5) Skully, Paul, rtan, Destrutor, AngryWoebot (6) daro, vanHunt, peter4life, Pinsky, ronny, deziar


  • Cream of the Crop [Minor] Flaming (1st time)
  • [Minor] Special kind of rule break (1st time) - see match comment for explanation


  1. r7an: -9w- said:


  2. Default Date said:

    Because this match has not been scheduled by either of the teams, a default date has been set for this match.
    The default date is: Sunday, 03 April 2011, 20:30
    Please play this match on the appointed time and submit the results.

  3. dougiie: CotC said:


  4. r7an: -9w- said:

    can’t play default.

    lol at admins giving us a default as we’ve been in this division for a day :P

  5. CanFo: (Legend) - [HA] - #T4F said:

    Sorry, did not notice that :D
    Default date removed, please schedule asap.

  6. Poop: TSUN~ - [PG] said:

    r7an stop being a dick?

  7. CanFo: (Legend) - [HA] - #T4F said:

    Poop, stop stalking r7an only cuz he folded snuke

  8. Poop: TSUN~ - [PG] said:

    Can’t help it. After he folded snuke twice then attempted to fold fleshlight we had to kick him. Now i’m keeping an eye on him…..

  9. dougiie: CotC said:


  10. peter4life: 9g1c said:

    sry for so late no answer …
    so when u got time?

  11. peter4life: 9g1c said:

    i talked to r7an and we wanna play at the 7th april 20:45 cet
    i hope u agree again

  12. Default Date said:

    Because this match has not been scheduled by either of the teams, a default date has been set for this match.
    The default date is: Thursday, 07 April 2011, 20:45
    Please play this match on the appointed time and submit the results.

  13. r7an: -9w- said:

    yep date is fine, see you then

  14. FILTHY said:

    i wont be able to play in this match :(

  15. daro said:

    hey guys, we v got a rly nice n solid 1000 fps server which is located in germany. pls check if the pings are fine

    connect; password pcw

  16. r7an: -9w- said:

    we will need to use a merc demo then

    he’s a medic, but would be playing off class. will understand if you won’t allow him though

    if ben isnt allowed how about

  17. peter4life: 9g1c said: NOt allowed 2nd one is div 5 like u and me! so take him …

  18. r7an: -9w- said:


  19. S.Y.G.O.R.S.: - said:


  20. r7an: -9w- said:

    19:56 – | peter4life: so which day
    19:57 – r7an i42 finally booked :): tuesday, wednesday, or thursday
    19:57 – r7an i42 finally booked :): take yer pick
    19:57 – | peter4life: next week thursday
    19:57 – | peter4life: so in 1 week same time ;)
    19:57 – | peter4life: let’s make a short version of our talk at etf2l page

  21. daro said:

    Our opponents did now show up after 30 minutes.

  22. daro said:


  23. daro said:

    I meant: Our opponents did !! not !! show up after 30 minutes.

  24. dougiie: CotC said:

    are you serious? lol
    r7an spoke to peter4life and he agreed that we can reschedule due to unfortunate connection issues and drops with our players.

  25. r7an: -9w- said:

    lol default hunters. soz mate we agreed with your team leader to schedule next week as we didn’t have people online. check convo above ^^

  26. r7an: -9w- said:

    so we are playing this thursday 14th, 8.45cest.

    i will try to recruit a ‘suitable’ demoman, just for this game :)))))

  27. FILTHY said:

    or ill play demoman :(

  28. r7an: -9w- said:

    if you realise times are in cest FILTHY yes you can xD

  29. r7an: -9w- said:

    tried to add daro to sort out his default hunting ways but lo and behold he has me on ignore. what a guy!

  30. oronoc: ;? said:

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY RYAN (not a joke its actually his birthday)

  31. Daleth: ti. - [PG] said:

    hahahaha classic

  32. Poop: TSUN~ - [PG] said:

    r7an fucking play your games already seriously, no wonder they want a default. Show some grace ffs.

  33. CanFo: (Legend) - [HA] - #T4F said:

    Until some days ago,’s team page said “plz ask deziar and peter4life for etf2l match dates“. We will not award a default win to since r7an talked to peter4life soon enough to get the match moved. peter4life acted as war arranger/team leader although he might not have been a team leader on paper.
    Please play the match as usual (maybe at the 14th, as agreed with peter4life?).

    Good luck and have fun to both teams!

  34. r7an: -9w- said:

    cheers canfo.

    peter was actually listed as a ‘leader’ before the game, hence why i spoke to him. they removed his rights for some reason or another.

  35. deziar: =GO= said:

    peter4life made a ragequit as war arranger because he did not agree with the majority decision of the team ;)

    Thursday 14/04/ 20:00 CEST will be nice for us

  36. r7an: -9w- said:

    20cest is too early, 2045 or 2100 would be good

  37. Poop: TSUN~ - [PG] said:

    r7an bullshit, default hunting the racked game then delaying this game…..

  38. deziar: =GO= said:

    ok … Thursday 14/04/ – 20:45 CEST

  39. peter4life: 9g1c said:

    i am happy that we can play this! gl

  40. Poop: TSUN~ - [PG] said:

    r7an isn’t

  41. dougiie: CotC said:

    more match comments than prem games. we are too fucking cool

  42. Jay |: said:

    haha :D

  43. peter4life: 9g1c said:

    yeah right :D
    gl hf tonight!

  44. daro said:

    connect; password pcw

  45. oronoc: ;? said:

    speccing and seeing tf2portal not allowing a merc so no team name needed playing with 5…

    nice sportsmanship there guys xDDDDDDDD

  46. Poop: TSUN~ - [PG] said:

    r7an had it coming tbh

    nah but seriously portal i hope you die and drown in r7ans semen

  47. r7an: -9w- said:

    cunts =]

    our demo timed at 8.40cest during a warmup game, by the time we realised he wasn’t coming back it was too late to use wildcard. asked to use yak ( ) to which they refused, also stating they would refuse any merc.

    so pretty much fuck you guys.

    forever div5 :)

  48. Permzilla: (Legend) - doggo - WiK? said:

    don’t fold though xD

    no but seriously that’s a bit retarded

  49. Skully said:

    I wanna say GG but that was no game. The fact when we requested a merc they just said no and gave no reason is just retarded

    so yeah, fuck you guys

  50. r7an: -9w- said:

    we all know the reason skully, they wanted an easy 6 points :P

  51. oronoc: ;? said:


  52. Skully said:

    exactly ryan, everyone can see they were a bunch of defualt hunters first time around

  53. dougiie: CotC said:

    don’t worry guys you’ll get that little pixel trophy on your team page

    for being unsporting dickheads ))) woooooo

  54. tapley: TEZC - TEZC said:

    Never trust the germans guys……never trust the germans.

  55. Skully said:

    fucking germans, how do they work

  56. illii said:

    Why didn’t you just go to an admin about it when they first denied you a merc ryan? Surely any admin with some sort of brain would atleast consider helping out in some way when you’re stuck in a situation like that and the other team are being pricks. Just accepting stuff without arguing gets you nowhere!

    Default hunters should be slapped with one of them plastic hand-clappy thingies (they hurt).

  57. r7an: -9w- said:

    they have the right to refuse merc, which is fair enough, but any self respecting team would allow because its not improving the team whatsoever, they just wanted the easy 6 points.

    you never EVER get this in higher divisions (apart from OX but they are fags). makes me want to quit tf2 because of the fucking idiots in lower div tf2. and trust me ive met a few after i’ve made this lower div team/

  58. illii said:

    They have a right to refuse a merc, yes. But at the same time (correct me if i’m wrong), moving matches can be done by admins under certain circumstances? If you nag enough atleast :D

  59. vanHunt: - said:

    Hi folks,

    – Sportsmanship typically is regarded as a component of morality in sport, composed of three related and perhaps overlapping concepts: fair play, sportsmanship and character. Fair play refers to all participants having an equitable chance to pursue victory and acting toward others in an honest, straightforward, and a firm and dignified manner even when others do not play fairly. It includes respect for others including team members, opponents, and officials.-

    I really can understand if someone feels quite disappointed if an opponent doesn’t allow using a merc. If you dislike this ETF2L Rule feel free to talk with the Admins for a Change. But so long its part of the rules for the matches.

    Blaming your Opponent to be a “Default catcher etc.” can be right if he always would act like that. But one look in our Team History (4-7 Season old team!) would allow you to see a lot of merc usage for our opponent.

    You have a 9 Player Lineup, enough possibilities of getting a lineup player to be backup + Wildcards. It`s our 2nd Match arrangement, so where is our fault?

    And think back to the definition of sportsmanship – “It includes respect for others + manner even when others do not play “fairly”.

    We did not break any rule, we stayed manner and respectful, we just did not allow a merc, but what is your behaving?

    Chat abuse + Flaming + Racist comments.

    Just look again the demo of our Match, if you forget your behavior.

    In Germany we have a nice set phrase for this:
    “Don’t throw bricks when you live in a glass house“

  60. Trane said:

    Nice novel there.

    The long and short of it is that any decent bunch of guys would have allowed a same div merc, instead of hiding behind the rules.

    We all know that the rules are there to be followed, but they clearly weren’t trying to abuse them, merely trying to replace someone with connection issues.

    You have essentially spoiled the match and your reputation in the community, but I very much doubt that bothers you.

    Oh and just FYI – nobody is going to watch that demo.

  61. Poop: TSUN~ - [PG] said:

    sup trane, recruit ak and smurfy to your team, then rename it snuke

  62. r7an: -9w- said:

    I’d like to see the racist comments we made? I’m pretty sure that none of us are racist and that’s quite a statement to come out and say, isn’t it?

    But keep hiding behind the rules and acting like you’ve been sportsmanlike, LOL.

  63. Skully said:

    ^^^ this ^^^

    while we were pissed off, we would never go to a level of racisim, in fact I hate racisim, I always support equality

    now the fact about our lineup and the fact we couldnt get 6, real life always takes priotity (sp) over gaming, no one dies in a game (despite Ive witnessed some die after playing a sporting match), but in real life, events like that happen. OFC that didnt happen last night. But we had people on holiday, and people visiting family, but we decided to keep going because we had 6 and it was the 6 Im sure ryan wanted to use.

    However, a crisis did hit, our demo losing internet/power cut/something to cause him to drop, we explained however you still refused anything on the grounds of “2nd re-arangement”. Yes I can understand you are right, however, the event was sudden enough that you should of taken some compassion into the event. Heck, the requested demo is playing you guys in S9 (and us) later in the season.

    and to claim sportsman like when you never had guts to explain why you refused the merc, heck, we almost had to force it out of you. Thats not being sportsman like

    maybe Im being harsh, but theres a level of being dick and a level of being a stuck up C**t, sadly, you showed which level your on

    TL:DR you’ll say but I dont care

  64. Poop: TSUN~ - [PG] said:

  65. Tikcus said:

    Ryan if hihi need a merc against, along as they are div 5 it won’t be a problem, if you guys need a merc against us, you’d better hope I’m in a good mood

  66. TURb0: Velox. - TSPAG said: cu @ week4, nazsty people.

  67. TURb0: Velox. - TSPAG said:

    *nasty oops ;)

  68. Mr. G: DStS said:

    declare a rematch, i say

  69. FILTHY said:

    Im really sorry guys i had a power cut and didn’t have electricity again till this morning. Horrible timing :'(. Shame on you TF portal.

  70. Poop: TSUN~ - [PG] said:

    I suppose it’s not as bad as a car crash

  71. Monkeh: .:ne:. - .:ne:. said:


  72. FILTHY said:


  73. Spike Himself: TC said:

    r7an can you contact an admin about this at some point, to share your side of the story?

    I shall watch the demo later tonight when I get home.

  74. Tikcus said:

    upload the demo to somewhere better than rapid share, maybe the etf2l site…. I aint waiting 60 seconds to download it

  75. dougiie: CotC said:

    hope you have unpredicted player issues and people refuse you a merc at some stage this season



  76. hz said:


    Fags @ :/

  77. Spawnhawk: pB. said:

    tbh, wildcard?

  78. Skully said:

    did you not read? it was too late to wildcard because by the time you refused our merc it was almost 15min up

  79. CanFo: (Legend) - [HA] - #T4F said:

    I am kindly asking all users to refrain from flames towards any team or player.

    The outcome of this match has been unsatisfactory for both teams (yes, even who are constantly being trolled in every mix, very mature!) and we are currently discussing any further consequences of this match.

    All of this could probably have been avoided by better communication from both sides and I am convinced that flames in any form rather harm yourself than the person or team they are directed to. Do not forget your manners! (yes, I know, this is the internet)

  80. r7an: -9w- said:

    “All of this could probably have been avoided by better communication from both sides”

    haha, you shitting me?

  81. r7an: -9w- said:

    and we as a team cannot control other people reacting to this in mixes..

  82. Tikcus said:

    “The outcome of this match has been unsatisfactory for both teams (yes, even who are constantly being trolled in every mix, very mature!) and we are currently discussing any further consequences of this match.”

    This was yesterday, how many mixes have they played???

    I just hope that if ever has someone drop just before a game (and too late to wildcard it) their opponents are more forgiven than they were, alternatively if they remember this game they might think 6v5 easy 6 points

  83. dougiie: CotC said:

    so I’d actually like to hear someone from tfportal or w/e the fuck you are called give an actual explanation of WHY you said no merc?! Why bother go for an easy 6 points? calm down lads, your not in div4 yet.

  84. Tikcus said:

    Admins maybe should consider changing the wildcard rule to allow teams to use it right up until the game starts – or even take it further if a player drops part way through the first map, and can’t re-connect, and the opponents refuse a merc, the 2nd map can be wildcarded to be played at a later

    This maybe only exceptional circumstances when this happens, but never the less it’s worth considering will win some man points if they agree to a re-match

  85. Tikcus said:

    should read – played at a later date

    need an edit feature for match comments

  86. humbug: .:ne:. said:

    nice post tik i agree with the wildcard point and would go some way in stopping this from happening again.

  87. Mr. G: DStS said:

    I would like to point out that did try to get a default win on April 7th

  88. r7an: -9w- said:

    Yeah pretty much Mr G which is why I find canfo’s post here a bit baffling.

  89. dougiie: CotC said:


    so any news for us admins? xxx

  90. Skully said:

    I’d love to know some news, however with the demo’s fucked up right now i can understand a small wait at looking at the demo

  91. instag1b: Panda said:


  92. r7an: -9w- said:

    i doubt admins will make tfportal play us again, this time fairly, tfportal didn’t break any rules. so unless the admins are going to change the rules regarding mercs/wildcards i doubt we’ll see any change.

    which is a shame because unsportsmanship should be punished in this league.

  93. Spike Himself: TC said:

    Dear teams,

    no team name needed will receive a warning for flame and abuse in chat before and during the match. | new Generation will receive a warning for unsportsmanlike behaviour (trying to claim a default win after agreeing to reschedule).

    Good luck in the rest of your matches, and remember to play fair.

  94. r7an: -9w- said:

    well played admin team! xD

  95. Skully said:

    its a fair outcome, wp admins

  96. deziar: =GO= said:

    well done, admins :)

  97. r7an: -9w- said:

    least you get your precious 6 points :)

  98. Jay |: said:

  99. dougiie: CotC said:

    if the season comes down to this game – replay us with 6 :)

  100. Spawnhawk: pB. said:


  101. Will said:


  102. Poop: TSUN~ - [PG] said:

  103. FILTHY said:

    เปิดหัวใจของคุณ !

  104. FILTHY said:


  105. Pinky: CotC said:

    what is this i don’t even

  106. Pinky: CotC said:

    div5f drama4life

  107. FILTHY said:

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  109. ouch said:

    Rasta.TF2 needs some more warnings!!!!

  110. r7an: -9w- said:


  111. The Monopoly Guy: spire said:

    why not

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