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Division 5a
Week 1
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by ETF2L Staff
Default Win
SteamID Screenshots: A
Players
| Pointless | (5) DominiX, FrozZzeN, sMokezz, uubers, 3dz |
| GoT.love | (7) Become, LUH-3417, Shabbaman, Andee, markyB, Asskicker, TonyGappa |
| Unrostered | (1) snikka |
Warnings
- Pointless [Minor] Using an unlisted player
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Hello Pointless! Let’s try to find a date. We prefer to play on either monday or wednesday. I’ve put a proposal in the calendar for next wednesday. It’s a holiday here the week after (at least for me :D so I’m abroad for a week) so I’d rather play this next week than later. Let me know what works for you.
Guys, let me know if you can play on 20/10/2010 at 20:30, we have to find a date fast. Options are limited, we could play either next monday, wednesday or thursday. Weekends’ not going to work for us.
I got us a server for tomorrow: tf2.deneusbeer.nl, password is gotprivate
Ai got cookies!
I had contact with Pointless, uubers on steam:
GoT<3 Andee: Hello Uubers. Im from clan GoT<3 and I was curious if our match of tonight is still ongoing?
uubers: hi, yes it is
GoT<3 Andee: Ah, ok. Just wondered because noone of Pointless responded on the match-page :-)
uubers: :)
GoT<3 Andee: Ok, in that case. We proposed a match-server on the etf2l-page. And i'll keep you in my friendslist for tonight, so we can contact each other :-)
uubers: ok
good luck to pointless!
thanks :)
Pointless for the win!
Goog game guys.
Good luck with all the other games.
You do know.. you got an unauthorised player in your team, that has been added minutes before the game to your roster without confirmation..?
We do know, but somehow everyone thought that 3dziic did let you know about the “half-merc” we had. We were not able to add him to our rooster on time, because he was in a different team, but he is a member of our team, not just a player for a single match. Sorry for the disinformation.
Hm, sucks :(
You get a minor warning for using unlisted players these days? That’s very lenient.
Now that I’ve thought about it, it’s not just lenient, it’s bullshit. Using an unlisted player gets one of these leagues’ harshest penalties, second only to expelling the team.How is this fair? Why do we even have rules if we don’t have to live by it? I can agree that the default penalty is too harsh for this offense in this particular instance, but a minor warning is akin to doing nothing at all. I can agree with Baerbel that this is only their first offense, but what did we in our match history to deserve this? Our choice to allow a merc is taken from us, and instead of a default win our opponent gets away with nothing. You get a minor warning for not uploading a screenshot FFS (btw, where are the screenshots?)!
What’s next? The first time our soldiers use TDH we get a minor warning because it was our first time we did that? The first time our scouts use the polycount set we get a minor warning because it was our first time we did that? The first time we let a div2 team play our match we get a minor warning because it was our first time we did that? Oh, and THEN we get a deduction of a full point for collecting three minor warnings? I couldn’t care less about the points, but this is not justice. I’ve lost all faith in the league admins by now.
I uploaded the screens for both of the maps, but where are they – I can’t tell. I’m asking admin about this.
I can understand you, but I sincerelly hope that you’re not taking any hard feelings about this. The player was playing for our team for a lot longer, but he wasn’t registered, because he was in another team and he could remove himself just that evening before the game, and by that time we registered him for our team.
I hope that this was our first and last warning. I can’t tell if we’re taking any members mid-season, but I can tell, that they won’t be taken hours before the game.
We did enjoy the game and I hope you did too.
If the screens can be uploaded once more – I will do that, as I said, I don’t know why aren’t they there yet.
so we get a default lose for using a player thats in our team, but is not verified, okay. Pretty cool to try and get a default win by all means necessary. Thats the true spirit of gaming :)
You got no <3
Going to win all season on default wins? Skilled team!
Yeah, guys from got.love obviously have no understanding of words “honor” and “selfrespect”. Way to go guys! ;)
3.5 No mercs allowed unless your opponent agrees
You are not allowed to use a merc (player that is not on your lineup) at any time of a match unless your opponent agreed to it. If you do not have enough players for a scheduled match and want to use a merc then make sure you contact the opponent in time. If the opponent agrees (they do not have to) then make sure you write a log of the agreement in the match comments. All mercs have to be registered on etf2l. Teams caught using an unauthorized merc will receive a default loss and a warning.
Pay extra attention to the last line of the rule. Pointless broke this rule and thus gets the default loss + minor. GoT.love is not at fault here, both morally and factually.
Season 4 – 1 default win, Season 5 – 2 default wins, ladder – 2 default wins. So thatswhy you’re still playing in 5 div. GL for more :)
2.2 Only correctly entered players are allowed to play
You are only allowed to use players who have correctly entered their Steam ID and are verfied on their teams’ roster.
You should have read this one before you tried to pull that “we add another player just before the match” stunt.
And you guys obviously have no understanding of the league rules.
The rules are in place for a reason, so you shouldn’t start raging when they get applied.
The whole “we didn’t know argument” is just plain bullshit and you know it.
You only have yourself to blame for this.
Bill, merc and unverified player is two different things isn’t it?
ok, nvm.
@3dziitc
No, they are not. That’s why you have to be in the team for 24 hours before you are verified, to ensure no sneaky shit like adding half of a premier Div team to your team and have them play in the official then go back to their normal roster. This also means that until they are verified they are counted as mercs and as such permission has to be asked.
Just got told!
Season 4 – 1 default win, Season 5 – 2 default wins, ladder – 2 default wins. So thatswhy you’re still playing in 5 div. GL for more :)
26 ladder matches played and 2 defaults. 2defaults because the other team or folded or couldn’t get a line-up for 1,5 month and gave the match to us.
4 seasons played and 3 defaults, because the other team didn’t show up or couldn’t play it at any time after a lot of proposals and they gave it to us.
So I don’t think we’re doing badly and it would be nice if you would get your facts straight.
You just got told.
AGAIN.
Its “Pointless” to argue with an admin!
@3dziitc: fielding an unlisted player is very unsportsmanlike. I didn’t ask for a default win, I ranted that the minor warning wasn’t in proportion to the error. A default win isn’t proportional either, I doubt we would’ve beaten you even if you played with 5 though. You made that error, not us. Don’t blame that error on us.
default win makes me sleep well at nights
Default win doesn’t change the fact, that you got owned.
Trololol, noobs.
BAM!
I like how it’s pretty much only non teammembers raging/lolling :’)
Let’s close the thread on a friendly note.
Non-offences taken not against the admin team not against the member of the got team.
We wish you best of luck in all of the S8 and future seasons aswell.
members* of the got.love team, couldn’t edit ^_^
Thanks DominiX. This winn doens’t feel right to me. You are a very good team, and very capable of playing div 4, maybe even div 3. I wish you and all teammembers good luck in the rest of the season, and coming seasons too.
GoT team,you realy suck! default wins are skill!!!mbe you want to get into 4 div with def wins?
answer me!and Pointless,gl in future games;),Pointless would win you with 5 players )
Actually, we don’t want to get into div. 4 at all. And like I said myself (read above, reading is tech), Pointless would beat us with 5 players indeed. But that’s not the point, the point is that they broke the rules and we did not. If you want to discuss and change the rules, you have my support.
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