Season 4

Division 5b

Week 1

Date Scheduled:
Results submitted:
by lis (Noreaction)

cp_gravelpit

cp_gravelpit

1 - 1

[Screenshots: A B C D ]

cp_dustbowl

cp_dustbowl

1 - 0

[Screenshots: A B C D E ]

Russia Noreaction vs European Bacon
4 - 1

SteamID Screenshots: A B C D E

Players

Noreaction (5) w1ng, Mes, lis, Leym, fbi
Bacon (6) Murderface, carlolz, GleaKhan, phife, smurf_buggery, -oRphiK-
Unrostered (2) wolfbmp, PaladinLv

14 Comments

  1. w1ng said:

    have server ?

  2. lis: aqeze said:

    we played with merks paladinlv on the first map, and wolfbmp on the second map, opponent allowed to use it.

  3. DeNeusbeer: (Legend) - HoT<3 said:

    gravelpit and dustbowl screenshots should look like this: http://etf2l.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/cp_gravelpit00022.jpg 0-0 screenshots don’t tell us anything.(you can get them from a recorded demo)

  4. lis: aqeze said:

    dustbowl – http://etf2l.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/p5t_bob.jpg
    gravelpit – http://etf2l.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/cp_gravelpit0005.jpg

  5. phife: бекон said:

    actually we did allow u the first one, not the second one, and we told u that. the last one joined midgame in round 2 on gpit. u even said ure gonna play with 5 people.

  6. w1ng said:

    I say 6 ist coming, lets play.

  7. phife: бекон said:

    u fraking said we play with 5. midway thru the game u say 6 is coming. we said u arent allowed cause u already said u want to play with 5. plus, u already used a merc, and we accepted. however, we did not accept the new one. i have the demo with this chat

  8. Murderface said:

    “I say 6 ist coming, lets play.”

    You said this 4 seconds before the match started, after we agreed for you to play with 5, after waiting 10 minutes for him to join. (tick 46000 on 2nd demo, gravelpit – rd1).

    The rules are: 1.6.6 No ringers allowed unless your opponent agrees

    “You are not allowed to use a ringer at any time of a match unless your opponent agreed to it. Teams caught using an unauthorized ringer will be expelled from the league and the ringer will be banned from all subsequent ETF2L competitions.”

    You have used 2 unauthorised players, and also one of your players had a constant ping between 200ms and 300ms, which made him warp all over the place for the entire match.

  9. lis: aqeze said:

    BEFORE 1 ROUND of 2nd MAP STARTED
    ••B?B•• phiFe : whats with ure guy
    P5T.lis : were searching a replacement
    ••B?B•• phiFe : what is deadline ?
    ••B?B•• phiFe : 15 mins ?
    P5T.lis : 10
    ••B?B•• Murderface : …and ur 6th player?
    P5T.lis : 5 more minuts
    P5T.lis : we can play 5 (1.6.7 Minimum of 5 players needed to play a match)
    ••B?B•• -oRphiK- : ya right
    ••B?B•• phiFe : ye
    P5T.lis : lets start
    ••B?B•• phiFe : u can
    ••B?B•• Murderface : ok
    P5T.Leym- ?(??????•) : rdy pls
    P5T.w1ng : go
    P5T.w1ng : aur 6 is coming. go go go
    1 ROUND STARTED
    ••B?B•• Smurf BuGGery : too late XD
    ••B?B•• Murderface : no u said 5, game has started
    2 minutes after the round has started our 6 player has joined
    ••B?B•• Smurf BuGGery : u and me phife go a
    1 ROUND ENDED
    ••B?B•• phiFe : k
    ••B?B•• phiFe : so thats it then =
    ••B?B•• CarL0Lz : so a draw
    ••B?B•• phiFe : yes ?
    P5T.lis : 2 round (1.5.3 Gravelpit = 2 Rounds, Goldrush + Dustbowl = 1 Round)
    ••B?B•• phiFe : why
    P5T.lis : rules
    ••B?B•• phiFe : hasnt been on dust ?
    P5T.lis : gracel 2 rounds
    P5T.w1ng : dust 1 round, gravelpit 2
    2 ROUND STARTED
    2 ROUND ENDED
    P5T.lis : gg
    ••B?B•• CarL0Lz : its f***ing shite
    P5T.w1ng : :D
    ••B?B•• phiFe : yup
    ••B?B•• phiFe : wanna trace route
    ••B?B•• Murderface : p5t, we need a screenshot of your trace-route (http://etf2l.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/leymtracertdv9.jpg)
    P5T.w1ng : say no panik :D
    ••B?B•• Murderface : to prove the bad ping
    P5T.lis : status?
    ••B?B•• CarL0Lz : that lag was unbelievable (1.2.5 Server needs to provide your opponent a playable ping)
    P5T.w1ng : its your server. a have ping 60 :)
    ••B?B•• Murderface : we’re talking about leym
    ••B?B•• CarL0Lz : umm leym 300 +
    ••B?B•• Smurf BuGGery : u d*** head, its easyer hit a house fly with a rock
    P5T.w1ng : lol one player kill you all :D

    the *** i have added
    (1.6.6 No ringers allowed unless your opponent agrees) Before the game started We asked You whether we can use a ringer (mercenary)
    You have agreed, so we did. We have used 1 ringer ( 2 diffrent players, but still only 1 ringer and 5 P5T team players)
    About the ping:
    1.2.5 Server needs to provide your opponent a playable ping
    It was youre server, and you have told that you are not consent with our players ping only after the game has ended and you lost.
    That player played mostly as engineer, and sometimes as pyro, only because he wasnt able to play any other class with that ping.

  10. -oRphiK-: BACΩN | - бекон said:

    You are not allowed to use a ringer AT ANY TIME of a match unless your opponent agreed to it.

  11. lis: aqeze said:

    As I already said we have agreed before the game started that we will use a
    ringer for this game ( whole game ( 2 maps (dustbowl and gravelpit)))
    Here is the conversation:

    P5T.ksaN: so can we take a merc for this game ?
    ••B?B•• phiFe: sry
    P5T.ksaN: np
    P5T.ksaN: so ?
    ••B?B•• phiFe: merc ?
    P5T.ksaN: mercenary
    ••B?B•• phiFe: sorry dont know each abbreveation :P
    P5T.ksaN: player that not from our team
    ••B?B•• phiFe: erm
    ••B?B•• phiFe: is that allowed ?
    P5T.ksaN: yup
    ••B?B•• phiFe: hold on
    P5T.ksaN: 1 merc at game , if oponent agrees
    ••B?B•• phiFe: ok
    ••B?B•• phiFe: go ahead
    P5T.ksaN: thx man

    Or do you want to say that after 1 map you have changed youre mind,
    and you were against that we use a ringer?? You didnt tell us anything
    about us using a ringer in the game.
    You did agreed that we use a ringer at this game, use the ringer
    AT ANY TIME of the game, so we did.

  12. Murderface said:

    One ringer, yes

    Not 2, yes >two< ringers like you had! You are only allowed one team change anyway, whether you change one member, or the whole team

  13. -oRphiK-: BACΩN | - бекон said:

    Im posting this on Smurf Buggerys behalf^^:

    ‘P5T.ksaN: 1 merc at game , if oponent agrees’ we did indeed agree to one ringer. You used two. The point of regestering clan members seems pointless if ringers can be used so freely. We were supposed to play P5T not P5T + who ever takes there fancy.

    As for the player with the lag. Granted he was just one player, but this is a 6 v 6 etf2l. Every player counts. Demos from each and eveyone of us will prove how costly it was for us to spend so much time trying to hit one player that moved in such a chaotic manner.

    This is not simply a case of sore losers. We have lost before and will do so again. We take it with good grace but the manner in wich this game was conducted has left a bad taste in our mouths.

    -Smurf

  14. phife: бекон said:

    like will said, i agreeed to that specific ringer. not all. that second guy we did not agree with and its clrealy readable.

    using a high ping player is really to your advantage, more than to ours. as engi or pyro, u dont need to aim as good as u need to with any other class.

    that lagging players costed us two ubers, because our medic couldnt react. he just popped out of a corner and burned him to death.

    and as smurf said, we are not bad losers. we just want fair circumstances.

    and we provided you with a good server. they are from cybernetics, so they are good. also, every other players had a good ping. gleaken is from turkey and had a ping of 100. its either that ure player is from japan, or his connection is shit.

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