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Default victory why??

Created 5th July 2008 @ 13:40

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J3

Can anyone give me a good answer for why zt (team without roster registered, and never worried about scheduling the game) won by default our match for the 3d cup?
We didnt agree in a postponal because it was not etic to do it after they had a week to negotiate, and coming to us on the last day to say “Oh please change the date I didnt realised!!” ffs this was scheduled 1week ago are they blind? I tried to reach their tl through the week and nothing, It’s right we didnt challenged them but why in the name of god are they the ones to win when they didnt even asked for a rematch after this was spoken to the admins? Which would mean nothing because they sitll dont have 6 to play!!! So in the end we would have an default win for sure if we were about to play. Anyway we were the only one caring for this nobody else seems to…

I am asking admins to rethink this please because I’ve played many competitions and never seen the team in fault winning by default to the team prejudiced like this.

I hope this is fixed because it isnt right I am not the only community member to realise it so please wake up and make the right choice I didnt commited any fault otherwise I ppl will suddenly stop answering challenges and go wait for the day to say: “sorry we cant!!! :P! so default for us? nice!! ”

regards, J3

dAyKiLLeR

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Hello,

I’m pretty much wondering why you coming up with this topic again, after we talked about it on IRC a few days ago already and you pretty much agreed to me in the end of our chat.

1. zt offered you 5 possible dates, which you answered with:

[17:56] POR|J3> we only play fridays sat

Which is like no option in this league, as over 95% of the teams never play on fridays and saturdays.
You also stated it once more a clear opinion in this chat.

[18:24] nubonamission> 19, 20, 21 CET, from sunday – thursday
[18:25] POR|J3> I am sure that we will never play at that schedule

2. After chat was ended with no decision you just entered a Date in the Calendar which wasn’t confirmed by opponent. You didn’t even notice opponent about it.
3. When you talked to zt again on the date you have entered the game for, surely zt was pretty much surprised, as they didn’t know anything about it and couldn’t play cause of this.
4. He again tried to fix a date for you for Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday, but you only stated you don’t agree on any postponement and will take the Default Win.
5. About the roster: As we had some internal database we did freeze all old rosters which are still used to give every team some time to fix their rosters at the new Player System. On this old frozen roster zt had about 10 members listed.

Of course we don’t like to give out any Default Wins but on this case your team just didn’t behave on the league rules by adding a unagreed date on the Calendar without noticing your opponent, etc.
All in all zt really tried to play this game which causes they deserve the win on this match.

J3

1. 95% are not all the teams so that doesnt matter for sure. Not all the teams have the same habits and that is not even an argument.
He said too:
[17:53] can u play next sat 17cet?
[17:54] lol
[17:54] no
[17:54] sunday 20:00 / 21:00 CET ?

So they asked for the date and I confirmed it on the website because they gave me no other chance.
Was that or the default date, which would be even worse for us.
Even if I didnt warned them after the chat, they should have gone to the website and confirmed it or if not then challenge us like u said I should have done. Or rules are only applied for us? Did they even bored to go to the website and see who their opponent was? Or this is just a fake and nobody here really follows the rules?

2. I tried to reach him and on my schedule he was never available or not responding, steam/mirc so I scheduled it so they could see I agreed and if they had any prob just contacted me.

3. That is a lie they could not be surprised otherwise that would mean they have not payed any attention to the website and rules, and he asked me to change it and I said they had plenty time and I would not agree on a postponal because would not be fair for our team which trained and unscheduled personal stuff to be there on sunday.

I didnt challenged them because there was no complain so far, and they said they could play on that time(again and it doesnt matter how the chat ended,so unless he said something to denie it, it is still true”[17:54] sunday 20:00 / 21:00 CET ?”) there is no explanation on rules on HOW DO WE HAVE to confirm it and advising it should be done on irc doesnt make it a must, so they could confirm it on the site calendar(otherwise there would be no need of an website).

4. Again not etic and no reason for them so no postponal, I still dont agree on a postponal and I will never agree because I didnt breaked any rule.

5. If the old roster is frozen it means it is invalid so they cant make any changes, if a team had 10 registered and then 3 they would have an vantage because they can go to match with not registered players, again the rules are not just the ones u refered but this one too and if we have an roster it is suposed to have 6 at least to go valid(unless u mean we could play with 5registered players which is nosense and means having no respect for the opponent). New roster is the one is valid.

So in conlusion WE AGREED to the date THEY PROPOSED and I scheduled it 1/2days later because they dont. And they didnt have an complete roster and they didnt even worried about this, their leader was playing guilty and almost begged me to postpone it before I was tired of reading him and though that he was crossing the line of it is considered an polite conversation, so I ignored him and talked to admins because for sure they would agree with me :S. Now please! Think just a little to come to the conclusion they had no interest at all and we were the only one who cared.I was the one who entered in touch and they dont!!!
Unless there is a rule who says we must warn them we scheduled the game they proposed to us, the only fault here was theirs not our.

Hope this is cleared and everything is fixed soon, because I dont like to discuss obvious/simple things like this one, makes me thing of ppl that dont stop whining when they have no reason, except that I have reason.

regards, J3

Haunter

when u cant reach ur oponent, start a topic on our forum, or contact one of the admins… never schedule the game without your opponent’s confirmation

xtala

“5. If the old roster is frozen it means it is invalid so they cant make any changes, if a team had 10 registered and then 3 they would have an vantage because they can go to match with not registered players, again the rules are not just the ones u refered but this one too and if we have an roster it is suposed to have 6 at least to go valid(unless u mean we could play with 5registered players which is nosense and means having no respect for the opponent). New roster is the one is valid.”

No pun intended, but that’s bs imo.
Our teams roster not completely fixed yet, because of exams, holidays and a few players that were inactive.
If the rules state that the old, freezed roster is still valid for a while, then I see no problem with that

Moose

[MIPC]
#10

Teams that can only play on Fridays and Saturdays shouldn’t be accepted to any league or cup, imo. Like daykiller said, that makes it impossible for most teams to play against them.

Haunter

i think the situation is cleared, and no need for more flame, ill lock the topic

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