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What Are Your Casting Preferences?
Created 12th October 2014 @ 23:10
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I’ve been watching a few different organisations streaming and casting some amazing TF2 recently, and looking at older YouTube videos as well. It got me thinking about all the different bits and bobs we can put on the screen for viewers and the amazing tools that’ve been developed recently, but I don’t think anyone has ever really got a good idea for what people prefer to watch – it’s always just the streamer/org’s decision.
Which of these things do you like seeing onscreen during casts? What should be added/taken away?
Map Score
Previous Map Score(s)
Kritz / Medigun being used
Numerical Uber Advantage
Overall Team Health
Individual Player Health (above heads)
Individual Player Names (below)
Casters Names Overlay
Casting Org Logo Overlay
Team Name Overlay
Fixture Overlay
Player Outlines
Projectile Outlines
Fixed Bird’s Eye Views (specific pre-determined views)
Fixed Player Aliases
Custom Models/Textures for Teams/Sponsors
Minimap/2DRadar
That’s about all the possibilities I can think of for the moment. Which do you like? Which are shit?
I’d say the minimap isn’t really that usefull, you can barely pay attention to it, and you can already see players through walls
Quoted from Sideshow
Fixed Bird’s Eye Views (specific pre-determined views)
Is this possible? So much is missed in pov, but casters complained it looked bad doing handheld overhead. (I can see how it might be possible on the server, not sure about stv.)
Map Score – must have
Previous Map Score(s) – must have
Kritz / Medigun being used – good to have if casters don’t talk about it
Numerical Uber Advantage – must have
Overall Team Health – I personally never really pay attention to it
Individual Player Health (above heads) – makes everything look kind of messy imo
Individual Player Names (below) – not really necessary
Casters Names Overlay – not needed, during the match, but before and after it’s good. could aalso just put it in the stream title
Casting Org Logo Overlay – unnecessary
Team Name Overlay – just put it in the stream title
Fixture Overlay – not needed
Player Outlines – must have
Projectile Outlines – not needed
Fixed Bird’s Eye Views (specific pre-determined views) – haven’t noticed that, so I don’t know
Fixed Player Aliases – nice to have
Custom Models/Textures for Teams/Sponsors – not needed
Minimap/2DRadar – not needed
Always:
Map Score
Previous Map Score(s)
Kritz / Medigun being used
Numerical Uber Advantage
Individual Player Health (above heads)
Round start etc:
Casters Names Overlay
Casting Org Logo Overlay
Team Name Overlay
Fixture Overlay
Scoreboard
If you get dolla for it:
Custom Models/Textures for Teams/Sponsors
Quoted from Sideshow
Map Score Yes, so people won’t spam WHAT’S THE SCORE?
Previous Map Score(s) Same as above, but it should be smaller
Kritz / Medigun being used Nah, usually casters pay attention to Ubers/Kritz
Numerical Uber Advantage Nah
Overall Team Health Nope
Individual Player Health (above heads) I would actually prefer it to be Numeric, instead of a bar
Individual Player Names (below) but Above > Below
Casters Names Overlay Only during pre/after game, there’s also twitch title for that
Casting Org Logo Overlay Same as above, pre/after game
Team Name Overlay I would prefer it to be combined with Map score, like: Team name – Map Score – Team Name – Map Score, like in older Casts
Fixture Overlay Yes
Player Outlines Yes
Projectile Outlines Stickies, Rockets and Pipes are quite noticeable OR have projectiles leave a small team colored trail
Fixed Bird’s Eye Views (specific pre-determined views) Yes, for quick switching between Flanks and Chokes and all areas
Fixed Player Aliases Well players must use their ETF2L nicknames in Prem, but if someone is planning to stream games below Prem, sure
Custom Models/Textures for Teams/Sponsors Yes
Minimap/2DRadar Nope
Include
Map Score
Previous Map Score(s)
Kritz / Medigun being used
Numerical Uber Advantage
Player Outlines
Projectile Outlines
Custom Models/Textures for Teams/Sponsors
Toggle
Overall Team Health
Individual Player Health (above heads)
Individual Player Names (below)
Map Score: Yes, in the map fixture overlay (updated as soon as possible)
Previous Map Score(s): Yes, in the map fixture overlay
Kritz / Medigun being used: Yes
Numerical Uber Advantage: Yes
Overall Team Health: Where it would be?: If you can find a suitable spot, then yes
Individual Player Health (above heads):/b] No, I would imagine there would be too many numbers everywhere
Individual Player Names (below): Same as latter, there would be too many letters flowing around I think.
Casters Names Overlay: If they would activate like in Mumble, it could be cool I guess
Casting Org Logo Overlay: It’s not like there a lot of other casting orgs there. Your unique overlay should be recognizable enough.
Team Name Overlay: It should be on the Stream Name
Fixture Overlay: This would be the maps overlay, right? Then yes.
Player Outlines Yes, this is mandatory-
Projectile Outlines: I don’t know about this, I feel like there would be too many red and blue lasers everywhere.
Fixed Bird’s Eye Views (specific pre-determined views): If you are able to do them, then sure. Not too many though (maybe one per point?)
Fixed Player Aliases: I would assume people put their right nicks anyway in casted matches (in prem there is a rule for this).
Custom Models/Textures for Teams/Sponsors: If it’s subtle like in the Yoyotech frag video, then why not.
Minimap/2DRadar: I would be curious where it would be placed and what it would look like. Maybe boomeh can tell us… Show a picture and I can consider it more.
Last edited by Setlet,
Map Score – yes
Previous Map Score(s) – yes, hate when it isn’t there
Kritz / Medigun being used – not needed
Numerical Uber Advantage – yes
Overall Team Health – not needed, but I like it
Individual Player Health (above heads) – not needed, but I like it too
Individual Player Names (below) – no pls
Casters Names Overlay – Just put in stream title
Casting Org Logo Overlay – if discreetly in the corner, I’d be in favor of it
Team Name Overlay – Just put in stream title
Fixture Overlay – no
Player Outlines – yes
Projectile Outlines – yes, awesome to be able to see sneaky stickytraps
Fixed Bird’s Eye Views (specific pre-determined views) – wat
Fixed Player Aliases – yes
Custom Models/Textures for Teams/Sponsors – no
Minimap/2DRadar – no
Map Score : yes
Previous Map Score(s) : yes
Kritz / Medigun being used : yes
Numerical Uber Advantage :yes
Overall Team Health : nah
Individual Player Health (above heads) : yes
Individual Player Names (below) (if under health bar no)
Casters Names Overlay : pregame
Casting Org Logo Overlay : pregame
Team Name Overlay : is on scores
Fixture Overlay : idk what this is
Player Outlines : yes
Projectile Outlines : for stickies
Fixed Bird’s Eye Views (specific pre-determined views) : yes
Fixed Player Aliases
Custom Models/Textures for Teams/Sponsors : if it earns more money sure, they used it at gxl and it wasn’t that bad
Minimap/2DRadar : no it horrible
Kinda unrelated, but it would be cool if there were replays or something. So if there was a huge airshot or something like that, casters could go back to that highlight during a stalemate for example. I barely see that in TF2 streams anymore.
Last edited by moursi,
Map Score : yes
Previous Map Score(s) : yes
Kritz / Medigun being used : yes
Numerical Uber Advantage :yes
Overall Team Health : no
Individual Player Health (above heads) : yes (bars, not numbers)
Individual Player Names (below) : yes
Casters Names Overlay : pregame
Casting Org Logo Overlay : pregame
Team Name Overlay : is on scores
Fixture Overlay : yes
Player Outlines : yes (in team colours)
Projectile Outlines : yes
Fixed Bird’s Eye Views (specific pre-determined views) : yes
Fixed Player Aliases : yes
Custom Models/Textures for Teams/Sponsors : sure
Minimap/2DRadar : no
Quoted from moursi
Kinda unrelated, but it would be cool if there were replays or something. So if there was a huge airshot or something like that, casters could go back to that highlight during a stalemate for example. I barely see that in TF2 streams anymore.
That was being done at i52 I think?
Last edited by konr,
Map Score yes
Previous Map Score(s) yes
Kritz / Medigun being used yes
Numerical Uber Advantage yes
Overall Team Health no
Individual Player Health (above heads) yes
Individual Player Names (below) yes
Casters Names Overlay only during downtime
Casting Org Logo Overlay only during downtime
Team Name Overlay only during downtime
Fixture Overlay only during downtime
Player Outlines yes
Projectile Outlines no
Fixed Bird’s Eye Views (specific pre-determined views) no
Fixed Player Aliases yes
Custom Models/Textures for Teams/Sponsors yes
Minimap/2DRadar no
Map Score
Kritz / Medigun being used
Individual Player Health (above heads)
Player Outlines
Projectile Outlines
Fixed Player Aliases
+Stream Overlays must be slick, clean and informative(see tftv), every element must serve a purpose, otherwise it would look cluttered(see early vtv overlays)
+Streamers should have each individual player assigned to separate buttons so that one does not need to m1 through 4-6 of other players cams to find the one casters are talking about
Last edited by aura,
Map Score yes
Previous Map Score(s) yes
Kritz / Medigun being used yes
Numerical Uber Advantage yes
Overall Team Health yes
Individual Player Health (above heads) yes
Individual Player Names (below) yes
Casters Names Overlay in breaks
Casting Org Logo Overlay in breaks
Team Name Overlay in breaks
Fixture Overlay in breaks
Player Outlines yes
Projectile Outlines yes
Fixed Bird’s Eye Views (specific pre-determined views) no
Fixed Player Aliases yes
Custom Models/Textures for Teams/Sponsors yes
Minimap/2DRadar no
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