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well I was an idiot and lost my IE 3.0 at TCL, so I’m considering trying something else. i use quite a low sens (2.6 at 400 dpi) and so I need something that won’t skip at high speeds. at the moment i think i’ve narrowed it down to:

deathadder (is there a certain model number that fixed the lift off issue?)
ikari (is the optical or laser better for consistent tracking?)
roccat kone (no idea if this skips or not, some recommended it)
..or another 3.0

so if anyone has any experience with these mice or advice on what else to go for, it would be appreciated. :]

(i left out the mx518 because i tried it and it’s too small for my hands to grip comfortably).

Profuse I use a similar sense to you at about 20cm/180 (I know your slightly lower)
and I do believe the same mousepad: qck+

I use the deathadder atm, while I think I was probably better with the mx518, the deathadder technically tracks better and is more responsive. I have no problems with the deathadder at all. Great mouse and works great for low sense.

Yes I have the ikari optical. If you have a problem with liftoff distance then this really isn’t the mouse for you. The lift-off distance is HUUUUUGE. Makes it horrible playing with a low sense.

Apparently the ikari LASER is slightly better in terms of this lift-off problem. So that may be a valid option. However I felt with the ikari, you couldn’t get a suitable enough grip to make small movements. Maybe that’s just my hand though.

The tracking on it’s good though (not as good as the deathadder) and the mousefeet make one direction glide very comfortable but fast side to side movements are slightly more “sticky”.

Edit: Akill was using a MS 3.0 at i36, and when he tried my deathadder he said he was able to grip it even better and that it was a great mouse. Then again how could he tell with his 20.0 sensitivity :(

Yes, I can confirm the high liftoff distance for the Ikari optical.
The Ikari laser is at the other extreme end with almost no liftoff distance. It seems to stop tracking if you just lift it a fraction of a millimeter.

I had some big problems adjusting to this new liftoff distance after I had used the optical for a year, but now it’s very nice.
The tracking of the Ikari laser is absolutely perfect in my opinion (at least with my Qpad).

Well, i have use a Kone and need 10-15cm for a 360, dunno if that is considere lowsense, but anyway, it seems there is no use for such an expensive mouse, while mice like the mx518 are same as useful.
But wasnt there once that graph about that kind of thing? It should pretty much clear which the best mice is then..

thanks a lot for the detailed advice GibbZ, i’m now going to start looking for the best priced deathadder :]]

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