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Created 10th September 2011 @ 15:14
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Contracts: Fucking read them.
I feel sorry for the lads, but fuck sake, you should ALWAYS reading contracts thoroughly before signing them. Even if it was written by your best lifelong friend.
Where’s my prizemoney ESH (& Roccat)?
If they were good friends (the 5 main players), why didn’t they just divide the money so everyone would have the same amount? Or was Ex6tenz too greedy to share?
Quoted from Setlet
If they were good friends (the 5 main players), why didn’t they just divide the money so everyone would have the same amount? Or was Ex6tenz too greedy to share?
managers share…?
Quoted from Skyride
Contracts: Fucking read them.
I feel sorry for the lads, but fuck sake, you should ALWAYS reading contracts thoroughly before signing them. Even if it was written by your best lifelong friend.
This.
However, the orgs handling of this appears to have been fucking poor. It’s difficult for reading the contract to be even remotely relevant when the org flat out deny it’s existence for the most part, and then neither side actually produce a copy to validate their argument when it’s existence does become apparent. It may as well not exist.
On the broader issues, I guess ultimately so long as it all contracted and carried out in an honest and transparent way then orgs -can- do as they please (assuming their players sign the contracts ofc), whether that’s paying the manager or flat deducting x% for themselves, or even paying players at different rates.
Read your contract, and if issues arise wave your contract around!
they played together in the tournament right?
tey won the tournament as team right?
and they get different price money because some players could be easily exchanged???
WTF?!?
Quoted from wrock
they played together in the tournament right?
tey won the tournament as team right?and they get different price money because some players could be easily exchanged???
WTF?!?
There is logic behind it, perhaps not the best but there is logic. If one player goes 50 to 1 and another player goes 1 to 10 then one player carried and did most of the work and therefore is getting more money. It’s the same principle as in normal jobs. I work 9 hours you work 5 I get more money because I did more work (assuming we work at the same place ofcourse) :P
In theory it’s performance based, which is kind of a mixed bag in terms of how viable it actually is, if the lower paid people had put in a really good performance then maybe they would have gotten a bigger cut, but I don’t know enough of the actual games they played in anyway. In football you get some players on a £50k wage and others on a £150k wage, those on the £150k wage are more valuable in terms of merchandising (shirts, advertising revenues etc.), maybe better performances in matches (not always the case).
You will find expensive footballers being played over cheaper ones on the ground that they cost more money, not necessarily because they’re the better player.
Hell, it’s the same in some jobs, in places where sales are important you get commission from it, the better performers get more commission.
However, comparing the two is kinda wrong, if these guys signed a contract which stated RedLine would do this then it’s their fault for not reading the contract, RedLine did everything right, it was the players at fault.
If RedLine did this without a contract then it’s a dick move from them, if you’re in the team I think you should get an even cut, if I was in that team and got more I wouldn’t really like it.
I read some of those comments that the manager does do quite a bit of work and I agree with some statements saying that RedLine should have paid them out of their own pocket instead of from the prize pool.
At the end of the day there will be some worse cases of this in the future, and I think one of the main issues will be players not writing going through formalities when they join MGO’s. READ THE CONTRACT FFS! If it doesn’t mention anything about prize money, hassle them to make a formal and written agreement, if they don’t abide by it then they’re going to lose a shit ton of reputation.
Last edited by WARHURYEAH,
Quoted from WARHURYEAH
I read some of those comments that the manager does do quite a bit of work and I agree with some statements saying that RedLine should have paid them out of their own pocket instead of from the prize pool.
It could be a bonus ontop of something, just like a football manager would get a bonus for winning the league.
lol source XDD
Quoted from wrock
they played together in the tournament right?
tey won the tournament as team right?and they get different price money because some players could be easily exchanged???
WTF?!?
this
interesting post here btw from rattlesnake:
“So Ex6tenz is worth more than matt and victorz and a bit more? LOL.. If your trying to claim they helped advertise you more by putting their face on a server you should have paid that money out of other funds and not shafting them for the TeX money. That money is matt’s and victors and not yours you scabby cunt. People like you make esports a fucking joke… everyone knows roughly to expect 20% prize money cut from an org or 40% if your salaried… I guess legally you can suck my left nut.”
care to comment? QU*ick???!
“I guess legally you can suck my left nut.”
:D
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