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Adobe Premiere Essentials exporting lossless video problem

Created 30th May 2010 @ 18:21

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Biohazard

IDK

Hi

I have been trying to work it out for past couple of days without any luck so one you guys maybe will help.

Basically I have followed the PLDX movie recording tutorial (and using exactly same settings) and get clips in a mint quality out of it (60 fps, 1280/720, using a Huffyuv v2.1.1 codec). I am able to import them into premiere, apply all transitions and effects I want and preview works perfectly fine. The problem starts when i want to export the video into a file – file saving progress bar freezes at some percentage (when i tried to export 45 sec file, it stopped at 12 %, when i tried to do the same to 15 second file it stopped at around 40 – 44%, when i tried to to it for 10second file the video was exported successfully).

So i went and tried something different: took a 20 min clip (south park :P) cut out around 7 mins of it and tried to render it (using same settings – custom profile using the lossless codec) it turned out to be ok with expected ridiculous size :)

I post it here without any specific hardware details because I don’t think its a hardware issue (exporting to lossless works when input files are compressed using anything else, eg. divx, h.264 etc..).

My Premiere is patched to latest version, my hardware drivers are up-to-date, I am using win7 x64 with 4GB of ddr2 on top of it with 2.8 GHz dual core cpu, no overclocking done. Swap File is on and set to permanent values, between 6 GB and 12 GB (as advised at adobe forums and tutorials in case of 4GB of ram). Free space on c: = 180 GB.

Only answer if described problem occurred to you before or know possible solution please

Thanks in advance

biohazard

edit. Yes when I convert the clips into h.264 using the PLDX tool and import them into premiere i can do whatever i want and export it fine, but im a pedantic bastard and want to edit the files while they are still in perfect quality, then export them using same settings and then convert into h.264 afterwards. Oh and when im exporting into h.264 (or wmv etc.) straight away after editing, same thing happens: program freezes with progress bar stuck in-between of 0 and 100%. I assume its problem with input files…


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caned

MEAT
LEGO

o lawd

Biohazard

IDK

Quoted from caned

o lawd

thanks that solved all of my problems :P

caned

MEAT
LEGO

glad to be of service :]

decap

adobe premiere essentials? lol

nTraum

\V/ Gold
LAME

try lagarith, it’s the better codec anyway.

Biohazard

IDK

Quoted from decap

adobe premiere essentials? lol

Another constructive comment, thanks shithead…
Premiere Essentials has more than good enough functionality to edit a tf2 movie. But i do believe that you are such a professional that you went for 20 times more expensive cs4 (the whole package) and received amost same options with a different layout as i did in essentials version.

Oh you are probably a poor faggot who cant afford to buy his software so he goes on-line and steals it.

Also i forgot to mention that you cant read because i did mention that if you didn’t experience that before or know a solution to my problem please do not post anything.

“lol essentials” is probably only 2 words you know in English (assuming that abbreviation of “laugh out loud” counts as one)

Anyway i solved the problem. I was trying record straight to avi from in-game which caused frame dropping (apparently). After recording video to tga’s and wav file and then compiling them together it all worked out fine.

I will post some examples of renders i did so someone can cast their judgement on the quality and colours.

Biohazard

IDK

Quoted from nTraum

try lagarith, it’s the better codec anyway.

yeah did that mate but thx for answer :) that would help :)

edit. Problem solved

lock the topic please


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nTraum

\V/ Gold
LAME

How did you fix it?


Last edited by nTraum,

Skyride

DUCS

Quoted from Biohazard

[…]

Another constructive comment, thanks shithead…
Premiere Essentials has more than good enough functionality to edit a tf2 movie. But i do believe that you are such a professional that you went for 20 times more expensive cs4 (the whole package) and received amost same options with a different layout as i did in essentials version.

Oh you are probably a poor faggot who cant afford to buy his software so he goes on-line and steals it.

Also i forgot to mention that you cant read because i did mention that if you didn’t experience that before or know a solution to my problem please do not post anything.

“lol essentials” is probably only 2 words you know in English (assuming that abbreviation of “laugh out loud” counts as one)

You sir, Have clearly NEVER used After effects or premiere pro. I’m sure you think Photoshop Elements is just as good Photoshop Extended as well. ;)

Also, the bottom line of your problem is that Premiere Essentials was designed to make crap youtube / home videos, not edit loseless HD footage.


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Biohazard

IDK

Quoted from nTraum

How did you fix it?

compiling the tga and wav files in virtual dub, not using the huffyuv codec.

@ skyride

i will post some test videos i made and give links to download as well if you wish because the quality of output will be same as using premiere pro/ vegas pro/ final cut pro (could use final cut pro but dont see a reason to it).

octochris

(0v0)

Quoted from Biohazard

But i do believe that you are such a professional that you went for 20 times more expensive cs4 (the whole package) and received amost same options with a different layout as i did in essentials version.

This had better be a fucking troll.

Quoted from Biohazard

i will post some test videos i made and give links to download as well if you wish because the quality of output will be same as using premiere pro/ vegas pro/ final cut pro (could use final cut pro but dont see a reason to it).

Of course it is going to be the same audiovisual quality, that’s not determined by what program you use, that’s determined by the way you encode it, what Skyride is talking about (correctly so) is the editing tools available to you, which in Essentials is noticeably crippled.


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Biohazard

IDK

Quoted from octochris

[…]

This had better be a fucking troll.

[…]

Of course it is going to be the same audiovisual quality, that’s not determined by what program you use, that’s determined by the way you encode it, what Skyride is talking about (correctly so) is the editing tools available to you, which in Essentials is noticeably crippled.

Ok: maybe I exaggerated a BIT on the options and tools available :P (But I do believe some of them can be replaced with a plugin – correct me if I’m wrong)

I’m definitely not a video editing pro (otherwise i would not post here and wait for getting flamed by others). I have this program so i don’t see a reason not to use it to see what are the ways to achieve the best possible quality. Also last “proper” video editing software i used was adobe premiere 6.0 (around year 2000) so learning from basics is the best i can do at this moment.

Also Chris, I’m planning on comparing some of the high quality configs and as far as i remember you made one yourself.
Question: what are main areas I may find improvement at? I like the quality of default config in pldx tool but if it can get any better then yes please :)

octochris

(0v0)

Quoted from Biohazard

Also Chris, I’m planning on comparing some of the high quality configs and as far as i remember you made one yourself.
Question: what are main areas I may find improvement at? I like the quality of default config in pldx tool but if it can get any better then yes please :)

Well, ideally you should be looking at aesthetic quality vs. FPS I suppose.

Remember that you should do them on a low-end system (or both a low-end and mid-spec). On a decent PC you’re not going to see much difference between any FPS configs. On a bad PC you will. That’s where my configs excel — they balance aesthetic quality with FPS so that you can get a config ideal for your machine, because on some machines disabling some things will simply not put any dent in FPS.


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Biohazard

IDK

Hmmm lets have a look then :) Thx mate

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