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I always tought obscure looked very nice. The snow provides great contrast with the player models which is really nice. Most objects in the map have their function and aren’t distracting. I’d say obscure is as detailed as is neccesary. A 3d skybox might look good or something, but it’s certainly not something that NEEDS to be in a map.

That said, gullywash is an example of a map that looks very good, has a 3d skybox and also plays very well.

I’d rather cut off my ball sack.

Stick to the topic in hand please or don’t post at all.

[Edited by: Byte]

Gullywash looks… weird in places, but it’s final point is really really well done.

How to improve it visually
a) Some weird exterior beams on buildings, those horizontal crossbeams just look a bit weird (I think the largest building on the left looking towards mid has them).
b) Virtually no detailing on the interior of every building except the final point, unless something dramatic changed in the newer versions.
c) No 3D skybox D: (my one doesn’t have one yet either :D)
d) It needs more.. story, you’ve got a shipping container in the middle of a snowy plain with no road tracks towards it. You should add an overlay path (can be done in the overlay editor by shift+dragging the overlays “vertices” towards another overlay’s, and they’ll snap), through and under the crate, and under the erm… chokepoint on the left, then either have it fade out somehow, or add a metal door to a side wall to make it look like there’s a garage there.
e) I don’t know about you, but the 2nd point UFO is a bit weird, it’s not really something you’d expect to find in a logging plant. You could make it a rocky/snowy outcrop coming out of the snow.
f) Curvy roof here http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1706584/cp_obscure_beta%20screenshots/cp_obscure_beta0005.jpg looks awful (it’s also way too thick). Making the building below it concrete (fitting in aesthetically with the base inside it), will allow you to justify the curvature, and you can use the red/blue versions of concretewall001 to give visual indication of the team. The flat roof on the left is also a big no no thematically, especially on RED’s side – angular geometry is a defining characteristic of RED, and the flat roof simply doesn’t cut it.

I could go on, but these are some starting points for improvements.

Thank you Krull, i shall get this fixed asap :-).

Randalf ty for the pointers and constructive feedback what you’ve stated has given me more in sight to detailing/clarity. I especially like pointer d) ty for the info.

Some really good pointers iQue will look into them as well i especially like the tracks idea.

All of these suggestions are being processed day by day and it’s helping the map so i thank you all 3 for your posts :)

Cheers

Byte

CHA-CHING!

I get the same fps as I do on granary and badlands and I have a laptop.

dude, everyone withour a freakin GAMERcomputer gets fpsdrop in this map, and we are playing it in season 7!!! ;o

This doesn’t help me, can you tell me your computer specifications as i’m pretty sure the map is tested on a worse spec than yours and it doesn’t run so bad only when more than 16 ppl join the server it starts to affect the duff slow ass crap hardware it’s tested on.

Also Honeymustard i couldn’t replicate that really really weird bug you showed me in the screenshot, we checked in hammer and it’s firm to the wall dude…can i ask you to try and do the same again with same gfx settings/config and see if u get it. If you don’t then its a gfx glitch from whatever commands you are using…

I tried various thins to replicate it i couldn’t…

And yes vazz your right it is a mid sized health pack :p

Cheers

Byte