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This looks really good in my opinion. From a small runaround there are some things that Valves 5cp maps wouldnt do, just thought i might tell you what they could be.

1. The spawn areas around point 1/5 are two separate rooms, that exit directly onto the point area, and do not connect. Take a look at what granary does in my opinion. You cant have people so close to spamming the point and the lockers.

2. Chokepoints are hard enough to get through with enemies in front of you, but impossible if there are enemies in front and above you at the same time. There are some small areas cluttered with rubbish that would be better as decoration only, rather than areas to stand. Directly above the gate from point 1 to 2, as well as the very high area inside point 2.

3. It appears to be too easy for teams to get their medic in a position of height on point 2 when attacking from middle. On granary if a team wants to get their medic inside and above, they have to push through the garage area, where there will always be a defence of the stairs. On your map, the ramps are oustide and cannot be defended by a team inside. Forcing classes like heavy/medic to remain lower, and giving scout/solly/demo advantages like that forces teams to split more. I get a feeling most teams would always send the medic in up top, and uber from there.

4. The middle point is a bit of a weird one. Getting up top is as easy as going underneath again, where on granary its a longer walk, and pretty unusable for medics, because of the dangers involved with being so visible, and having a large drop to the medkit. What I might suggest is remove the glass and wall that look out onto the middle area, onto the mega health and mega ammo. I would also suggest you remove those two large kits and replace them with smaller ones, that are also mirrored onto each other. A small ammo and health on each log would work better imo, otherwise blu has a large advantage of the large health kit on their side. Also another problem might be connecting the upper areas of each side so easily. Even on arena_sawmill the upper areas are for each individual side, and are not connected at all.

Just some things to consider! By the way, it is fantastic work for just 2 and a half weeks, so keep at it and hopefully we can start using this map in 6v6. It looks great, and I think it could play great.

Yea this map looks really good actually. Lots of ways to get into a cp wich I like. The only problem I can see is that the mid (I think it’s the mid atleast, the ss with the sawblades) seems a bit crammed in and too closedquarteree.

It’s not a good idea to use alpine trees in gameplay areas – they have weird vphysics bounding boxes, and leave ugly shadows on the ground.

This looks really good in my opinion. From a small runaround there are some things that Valves 5cp maps wouldnt do, just thought i might tell you what they could be.

1. The spawn areas around point 1/5 are two separate rooms, that exit directly onto the point area, and do not connect. Take a look at what granary does in my opinion. You cant have people so close to spamming the point and the lockers.

2. Chokepoints are hard enough to get through with enemies in front of you, but impossible if there are enemies in front and above you at the same time. There are some small areas cluttered with rubbish that would be better as decoration only, rather than areas to stand. Directly above the gate from point 1 to 2, as well as the very high area inside point 2.

3. It appears to be too easy for teams to get their medic in a position of height on point 2 when attacking from middle. On granary if a team wants to get their medic inside and above, they have to push through the garage area, where there will always be a defence of the stairs. On your map, the ramps are oustide and cannot be defended by a team inside. Forcing classes like heavy/medic to remain lower, and giving scout/solly/demo advantages like that forces teams to split more. I get a feeling most teams would always send the medic in up top, and uber from there.

4. The middle point is a bit of a weird one. Getting up top is as easy as going underneath again, where on granary its a longer walk, and pretty unusable for medics, because of the dangers involved with being so visible, and having a large drop to the medkit. What I might suggest is remove the glass and wall that look out onto the middle area, onto the mega health and mega ammo. I would also suggest you remove those two large kits and replace them with smaller ones, that are also mirrored onto each other. A small ammo and health on each log would work better imo, otherwise blu has a large advantage of the large health kit on their side. Also another problem might be connecting the upper areas of each side so easily. Even on arena_sawmill the upper areas are for each individual side, and are not connected at all.

Just some things to consider! By the way, it is fantastic work for just 2 and a half weeks, so keep at it and hopefully we can start using this map in 6v6. It looks great, and I think it could play great.

ok, I’ll change it in b3.

It’s not a good idea to use alpine trees in gameplay areas – they have weird vphysics bounding boxes, and leave ugly shadows on the ground.

This trees are not solid, they are with clip and block bulets brushes.

Another small thing, the resupply that activates when you cap middle leads out onto second. It would be useful if a large sign appeared in the way of the lower exit to last to instantly tell people to head to the right, rather than left, on exit. See badwater for the signs it uses, that move up/ down when points are capped.

Also you might want to rethink the name from Alpine Storm to something like StormBrew. In general using the word alpine is redundant, and seems a bit unecessary.

also the hud should be blu left red right, yours is backwards.

I’ve had a little look round it and I’ve got to say it really is a beautiful map :D Certainly from an aesthetic point of view it all hangs together as well as any other custom 5cp I’ve seen.. it will obviously need play testing to get it perfect for competition, but at this point I’d say it’s very promising indeed :)