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No need to remove it.

I absolutely hate playing on gran, it’s boring as fuck.
Despite that it’s still a good map, so we should keep it.

That pro version was pretty cool actually. Why did it die out?

no

Quoted from Head Hunter

If you don’t enjoy granary it’s most likely because you and your team don’t know how to play it effectively.

that’s a pretty blanket statement, because my main problem with granary is mechanically and especially design wise, it pisses me off to no end. it’s so flat and dull and rectangular and everything happens on only one level with next to no meaningful terrain/elevation variation where it matters so it’s just so fucking boring. the height options you do have in the map are pretty meaningless because they are self contained within a 20 foot area around the staircase itself, so rather than having interesting flanking routes or attack approaches it ends up being so formulaic it hurts. having so many tiny chokepoints and open/close doors blocking sight lines breaks up the game flow for the worse and aesthetically speaking to the colours and lighting are all pretty bland as well. if push came to shove i’d gladly see a return to fastlane instead of granary because despite it still being a giant chokepointy rectangle made of 90 degree angles, fastlane still has a lot more variation in the map design and its height mechanics, which in my opinion leads to something far more engaging to play

but hey, it’s just personal preference and all that and opinions are like butts you see. i hope you all enjoyed reading this mass of words on something entirely insignificant

ps. play more foundry

Quoted from cmd

I fail to see a reason other than personal preference to remove it.
Granary should stay.

this sums it up pretty well.

Quoted from AnimaL

hahahaha, creating problems where there are none ftw

Creating discussion, not problems…

Quoted from CommanderX

I wish ETF2L forums didn’t exist

Like just take them away, please just take them away

But…but…where will I make a fool of myself then?

Quoted from Link!

if ppl have put up with it for 10 seasons it wouldn’t be that bad right

There’s always been a lack of good and “played-enough-to-be-popular” maps, it seems that is no longer quite so true.

Quoted from atomic-

now granary then badlands, gg folks

I can honestly say I’ve never heard a single person say they wished badlands wasn’t in the map pool. I’ve heard more and more people say that about gran, hence the original question.

I think the amount of nay-sayers in this thread alone make it a worthwhile question, there’s little doubt we can make a map pool without it at this time. No doubt the pre-season map vote will keep it in, but food for thought never the less.