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Ok, it’s time to bring this one up yet again like at the end of every season.

Now that we have Jimmy Breeze in as an ETF2L admin I’m fairly sure we will be getting a 6 team premiere division. That will open up room for div1 and I’m guessing the admins are gonna use only 1 div1 and then have 2 div2 like currently. Hopefully this is just not wishfull thinking! ;P

I’m just very curious yet again of the promotion & relegation. At least in the upper echelons of ETF2L I’m still very sure it would be better to NOT have direct relegation/promotion. We definately want the best teams to be in their deserving divisions and to ensure this playoffs are required.

For example like:

A team finishing up last in div1 is currently in for a direct relegation, while they might be aware that they are much better than the teams that are coming up and this would indeed make their next season very boring and have other negative impacts not only in the team itself but on the division below they are gonna be placed. It’s not coincidence that it’s the teams in top divisions that are underperforming or just finishing up last give up. It’s a very frustrating thought to get relegated and have a worse team promoted to your place. Obviously this might be the case for all divisions but it’s the top 2 divisons at the moment that have the biggest impact on the league and visibility too, we need stability.

A full season takes up 10 weeks (9 week for scheduled games + 1 week for delayed games?) and while you have 52 weeks in a year you could play 5 seasons a year. Yea, right. that’s a bit too much. 4 Seasons a year would result in 12 weeks of offseason in total for a year so that would be 3 weeks offseason/season, implementing a playoff structure there might be too big, so basically. Having 3 seasons a year gives up an average of 7 week offseason per season, which is pretty much how it is like now? Signups and such stuff take off 2-3 weeks off from this, so that would leave around good 2-3 week for a playoff stage.

At the moment there are 3 teams dropping out directly from div1, 2 promoted from div2:s and 2 battle for the third spot. That’s a total of 7 teams in transition. I’d rather decrease the number of dropping teams from div1 to div2 to 2 and have the top teams from div2 play for their spots. Total of 4 teams battle out who’s getting to div1 and who’s gonna be in div2. Use the same between d2 and d3 where I think the same system would still be required. Bottom 2 teams from div2:s and only top teams from div3:s play for promotion/relegation, total of 8 teams. If it was the case with possible premier division and div1, I’d use bot 2 from premiere to play against top 2 from div1 and why I’d have more teams to play for the spot in prem? More coverage, better games and prem teams are still in fairly good position to enter the playoffs as they have a season of experience of tougher competition under their belt. And obv to match the 10 week season in normal 10 team divisions prem div would have 5-6 teams, if it was 5, then the poffs should be P#5 vs D1#1, if 6 then it would be 2 teams playing for it P#5 vs D1#2 & P#6 vs D1#1. And yeah, it doesn’t have to be like this, but something like this should be in place.

So basically:
This should bring more stability for teams. Teams that have underperformed and already had a stressfull season would still have something to aim for and improve to keep their place in the division, only con is that teams normally getting direct promotion should change the mindset to that by winning a division they earn a _chance_ for promotion.

m0re don’t be angry!

People said women will never have the right to vote in Britain, fight the power, you go Depch!

People said women will never have the right to vote in Britain, fight the power, you go Depch!

as clueless you are I may say that i’ve tried to get premier div for past 2seasons, so thats why im lolling

From what I have heard, more is depressingly correct. In such regards the admins really are unforgivably lazy. ETF2L – 2 years old and progressing from strength to strength – by using the same league format that has been inadequate for top-level play for the past 2 seasons!

It’s good to see that the balanced div1 hasn’t encouraged anyone to drop due to a plethora of pre-decided games….

So how is div1 working out for DCSB? Oh wait…

gg badmins. You’re strangling upper tier TF2 while it’s engaging in auto-erotic asphyxiation.. Great for the scene!

Heard Rawr is doing well in div1, oh wait…

But yeah, we all know the current division system doesn’t really work. Div2 teams are beating div1 teams, div 3 teams are beating div 2 teams etcetera.

this is a good idea but it has a few flaws. one of them:

9. Team Coolermaster [Dropped]
10. rockit [Dropped]

So we have 6 premiere division teams. 2 of them drop.

How about a top of the league ladder after the season all divison 1,2,3 take part, taking into account promtions and relegations and then this would sort out the best from the worst teams.

Maybe introduce a slight step for each div so div 3 teams couldnt challange div 1 teams at the start but if they won a few matchs they could eventually if they really are better than most div 2 teams.

But would there be time for a ladder before the next season since it kicks off pretty quick after the new year if i rember correctly.

If one ladder would be too big there could be bottom half div1/top div 2 and a bottom div 2/top div 3 ladder kind of thing.

It would break the league stable up down system but it would mean the best teams are at the top.