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klu, do you actually know anything at all about the ‘joske’ situation?

who’s skyride? :O

Nice ninja Klu ;)

I love you JG!

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The 2 year ETF2L bans for accounts that were banned before the rules were changed are pretty hotly debated. I think it’s good that people talk about it and a fair decision should be reached through discussion.

I already made my own personal opinion clear in that I don’t think people should get a 2 year punishment instead of the 1 year ban that was the rule at the time of their account receiving a VAC ban.

Talking about Joske though, he doesn’t ever help his own personal case by doing idiotic things such as spamming the forums. If he wants people to see him as a grown-up and respect him, ideally he should treat others as a grown-up too. I think it would be good for him to have the chance to play tf2 again one day and prove that he can play fairly and have fun whilst doing so in a league setting.

Since it is never clear to people, the above comments are my opinion, not necessarily the viewpoint of ETF2L.

Talking about Joske though, he doesn’t ever help his own personal case by doing idiotic things such as spamming the forums. If he wants people to see him as a grown-up and respect him, ideally he should treat others as a grown-up too. I think it would be good for him to have the chance to play tf2 again one day and prove that he can play fairly and have fun whilst doing so in a league setting.

It’s my personal oppinion that for a few months now (since the last flame ban extension) that he’s been pretty well behaved and deserved that chance to prove himself again

What about people who get their accounts stolen and get it back only to find it’s VAC banned? Because I see at least one player who had that happen in the ban list.

Do Valve send emails back to you confirming they have given back your account?

I’d assume so when your support ticket or w/e is resolved.

But they never tell when the cheats were used, they just ban in waves every fortnight or so :/

What about people who get their accounts stolen and get it back only to find it’s VAC banned? Because I see at least one player who had that happen in the ban list.

Do Valve send emails back to you confirming they have given back your account?

well yeah, I got an email that gave me a link to make a new password iirc

If he wants people to see him as a grown-up and respect him, ideally he should treat others as a grown-up too.

To be honest this is goin on waaaaaaaaaay to long now. Even if its your own opinion (im sorry) you dare talk about respect, while you, etf2l, are loosing the respect of your players.
Im not just talkin about this incident with joske, which doesn´t only do him unjustice its immoral compared to the REAL tf2 cheaters.
Its goin on for weeks now, where there´s a series of highly doubtfull decisions made, while its absolutely clear that the majority of your players are against it.

Seriously etf2l, open your eyes, listen to your community, grow up and put your personal vendetta´s aside, save the respect you got from the community instead of loosing it slowly……..