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Provisional Divisions

Created 18th September 2009 @ 09:13

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GibbZ

WOOOOO!

I don’t think you understand.

Every season etf2l takes this stance and all it leads is to shitty divisions. You either have stupidly stacked teams in one division or just 1 godlike team. The result? You get teams flying through their games with full wins and no challenge.

The idea of divisions is that the same skilled teams play each other. You can’t allow a team into a higher division then they deserve just because they are “stable”. The divisions need to be skillfully balanced.

trams

-><-

Pod and OMG won their divisions and must go up, but Eta beat nfinity in playoffs, a little strange how they are placed, and dont say they used “powermercs”, both Sneis and Aeq has only played div3 as i recall.

All others:

If you think your team is misplaced, too high or too low, you can notify us of this. If possible and reasonable, we will try to put you in another division. If you want to do a request, please write an email to [email protected] with the following details:

* Teamname
* Current division level
* Requested division level
* Structured list of results with the following information included: Date; Type (PCW or League? Include match link if league); Opponent; Maps; Exact map results; Links to result screenshots

Is this really so hard to understand?

Our team have gathered “evidence” the last months, if we were put in the wrong div ;)

gryzor

OH MY GOD! Teams who won their division in a league advances a division instead of inserting some new team! I wonder what would have happened if we did the opposite — in fact DID pass a clan who was up for promotion and instead put in some randoms like you. In fact, if you hate so much gibbz that you have to resort to calling us all victims of downs syndrome…

… you should probably never play here again. You can and will fold your team yourself, delete your own account and never come back. If you are any kind of man, you would also take the time to apologise.

Thank you.

GibbZ

WOOOOO!

Your such a good admin it hurts.

gryzor

What, ‘good’ admins would have put up with this childish shit? I think you got it totally wrong, but on the other hand, you’re the one using chromosome-defects from birth to compare the seedings.

I bet YOU would be an AWESOME admin!

GibbZ

WOOOOO!

I’m not going to bore anyone with any facts but, in short, you’re an idiot. Wow I was drunk and made a remark about the seedings comparing them to a form of retardation (oh wait that’s because the divisions, in my opinion, are retarded). I actually think the admin team is fairly competant as a whole and hence why I ended my post with the whole “Ofc these are provisional still and I can understand mostly the reasoning behind the divisions. Some would say I’m just very passionate :)”.

I back the team completely, but however, I do not agree with the current divisions.

Why do I act like this to you gryzor then? (as you may be asking).
Despite your efforts towards the scene, you make yourself out to be an idiot on IRC, the forums and pretty much everywhere. Some would say you deserve respect, but I can not seriously give someone who is as pathetic as you respect. Sorry. I’m just voicing my opinion here. I never wanted to get personal, but I think you struck a cord? Ofcourse I’m not the only one who thinks this aswell.

Hate me if you want. I’m still right.

Loco

Mayo

ive got to say also looking at my own teams results etc
i find it hard to believe we are put into div3
with current results also being prety stable
but whatever i dont see much of a challenge in div3 what so ever,

gryzor

Really good way to deal with it. Awesome. Instead of taking responsibility for your idiot-actions, you attack me personally and yet again resort to name-calling. That really makes anything you have to say feel really important and worth reflecting upon. Really.

GibbZ

WOOOOO!

You personally insult me for voicing my opinion (as rash as it was), so then what do you expect?

I apologise for what I said originally then. Maybe the downsyndrome comment was too far and a bit distasteful. So sorry to the public. I’m not apologising for telling you how I feel about you though. You just blew up a comment on my opinion into like world war 3 or something…

Loco

Mayo

apart from gibbz having his little flame here,
he actually has a valid point,
i mean these seedings are quite shambolic
and as for div1
well its as dull as a weekend at blackpool

gryzor

I do not care what you think of me, but since you’ve apologised to the rest of the admins for that comment, I find it acceptable. End of.

GibbZ

WOOOOO!

apart from gibbz having his little flame here,
he actually has a valid point,
i mean these seedings are quite shambolic
and as for div1
well its as dull as a weekend at blackpool

Sorry, the flame has gone a bit out of proportion.
I just feel every single season you get the most retarded divisions and this is the only time we can act on them to fix them. Last season we saw division 3 with one of the groups stacked with the stronger teams and then the rest with only 1 good team in each division meaning to actually win your division and get to div2 wasn’t that hard. This has a knock on effect over the next season due to the team placement. Divisions should be equally balanced teamwise. I know that’s a hard thing to do, but this is why it may be worth recruiting more admins to help. You have to stay positive and assume all the teams will stay active and alive and won’t fold, and then base the divisions on SKILL. If you just keep basing the divisions on just “who won what” then it just doesn’t work. I’ve yet to play a season where I see great divisions.

Blackpool pleasure beach rocks mate.

(fully apologise for any offence taken by anyone)

Loco

Mayo

its not about personal attacks gryzor
but you have to be realistic looking at teams Now there form now and
look at who they will face in the division they are placed
im not blowing my own trumpet here but i think the teams trying to win div3 will
also feel demoralised with some of the teams put in these placements,

mineral

[kpwr]

What has been good past seasons was that you had pretty much equally as many teams going up as there were going down from each division. Last season we had 8 teams going up 4 going down if I recall correctly (div2-3), which I think was the big miss. With that rule it obviously doesn’t give any space for reformed/new – div2 skilled teams to get in div2. With 2 teams going up from each div3 obviously the skill level of division 2 will go down.
So yeah, I suppose the reason several mentioned teams are not put in div2 is just the fact that the new rule of 8 teams going up to div2 was made last season to avoid playoffs. The only way I saw it working then was with division 2 being extended which it isn’t.
It’s not really about the seedings that were made but about the rule itself that doesn’t give new or reformed teams any space as they didn’t “deserve the spot”, which teams that won/came 2nd in div3 last season have with quite a few reforms/rebuilds within those teams as well…
Not much will be achieved through ranting though, just send in appeals and hope the rules will be adjusted and the playoff system will be re-introduced towards next season, otherwise we’ll be looking at a weaker div2 in my eyes.

Spicke

Okay. I’ll admit straight down I’ve drank alcohol tonight so this post may be a bit rude.

It’s a bit of a joke really. Teams like nfinity eSports, OMG, POD, OG and SpA get into div2 yet we get put in div3.

-.-

while you are babbling nonsense, the other last season legitimately won their seats in div2.
You are in the last season also were present, the last game of the season game with OMG http://etf2l.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/ctf_turbine0339.jpg ;)

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