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But still, I’ve not been here for 3 months but I do believe I have reasonable gamesense and skills. So why would you have us players that genereally have put an effort into coming into competitive play and have trained hard to become good enough to be considered a competitive player kicked just because they haven’t been here long enough, just doesn’t make sense to me.

I hope im not sounding like a zealot because im really not going for it. I just don’t want idiots playing. I understand what eon is saying about playing with the better players improving your skill, but I really really don’t think thats whats happening here. I just don’t want stupid people playing there. I think the current filter is stopping a huge amount of that already but it still is there.

Basic fail of understanding: People do not improve more on etf2l pub than any other pub, we do however suffer quite a lot from people having no clue playing there.

After playing on it i get why people are wanting it to just be for clanned people or whatever, why not make it you have to have been in a etf2l team to play on it? :X

an other problem, people would just create teams to be able to join the server

i think it is a good idea because everytime i want to join its full and i autojoined and then it only join wen i arent in tf2 anymore

GL ETF2l take a look on this post its a GREAT idea :)