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Why this rule exist? Admin disagreements.
Created 16th April 2015 @ 22:30
Obviously I can’t share information about disagree with admins so I am gonna ask gere, if I think rules should be little updated because of something happening during official and I should not talk about this. How I can prove, how people can decide if it’s needed or not, if they can’t discuss about it.
F.6 – Do not bring up conflicts (e.g. team arguments, or disagreements with the admins) on the forum. Such threads will be deleted.
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Add Kkaltuu/Stinson.
I am talking with Sonny Black.
Ok obviously even I am not bashing on admins. My topic was considering situation in my official today, we were in midle of admin dispute, rival unpause after 5 minutes, when I were waiting still for admin response, I couldn’t focus on game when waiting on response, so I was away for half of our round. When I was playing wasn’t focusing on game, because of dispute going. What I was saying when something is being disputed with admin both teams should wait for admin response.
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yelu cuz he carried my friend team on open cuz i took a breacke so they say like this : oh you didnt played d3 you must be a nab and hes not that the cover of the story he is redwood (israel no arab no homo no racicst 15years old mature kido love to joke around wanna get a good team to improve has a team and stick togheder a fan of hgihpanda didnt wrote it right i know ahha but his dm is high and game sence so he can handle the div
Should be a rule about how to deal with disputes during a match. I expect you’re meant to play on, and then claim a default win after.
But still why does that rule exist, if there will be a situations where admins are wrong and you can’t really prove you’re right if you can’t share informations from admins.
admins are never wrong Keepo
Earlier admin could mislead me, if I got a prove that we agreed to play defence before we pressed ready on red, we would have a point and admin I was talking to really didn’t relly said that to me, if teams agree on something it should be enforced(other admin words). We made an assumption that enemy wants to attack because they stacked blue and was fine for us. But config changed the sides and we asked about heavy fist fight on setup time instead earlier, so I can take a blame, but we had issues with agreeing on merc so it taked so time so people were rushing.
I think disagreements should have a pause time until they are fixed, you can’t really focus on game when you think that you’re harmed in situation. And admins said that is our fault we were disputing during the pause not after the game? So we would waste even more time on it. If we were right in that situation and lost the game, after we agreed before the game to start on red, we would need to re do game in another time? There is really a lot of maybes. So I think disagreements should be resolved in another way, during a pause as early as possible.
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Why are you repeating your case again? It’s not about your specific case at hand, but admin requests and conversations in general.
Their contents are confidential information.
If you feel like an admin has dealt with your request in an incorrect manner you can demand an independant second review of it by another admin.
There’s no reason to present your case to the public by creating a forum thread.
They can’t change the verdict, only we can.
It’s not about case it’s about rules, I have nothing to win, just to help you better deal with situations.
I talked with Sonny Black but he got just annoyed with me, because I kept asking about everything, and basically I don’t agree with him in one single thing, maybe I agree on few. Killing my topic was an overkill anyway because it was a minor thing about changing rules, not about flaming an admin. And when I talked with Sonny Black, if I can get an straight answer from head admin no admin would helped me in this case. I really don’t think you’re capable of understanding the issue.
The issue is after the game Sonny Black told me we should just continue game, and also when I asked about situation that happend, there was scenario we would have right to enforce the rival to restart, so waiting with it could really put us in difficult situation – loosing game horribly and having replay it. But I really think if we would lost it I would just get an answer that you played whole game should complain earlier. There is no rule saying about when the complaints should be made.
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Why are you bringing up your case again? It’s completely irrelevant in this argument.
You’re saying that you should be able to share conversations with admins on the forums.
That is not an option for reasons that’ve been explained to you in both this thread and surely in the conversation with sonny.
Whether you agree with them or not, these are the current posting rules.
If you want to continue using this forum you’ll have to stick to them, period.
In order to propose a new posting rule or change an existing one go to http://etf2l.org/forum/feedback/ and convince us that your request is beneficial enough for the league to warrant a realization of it.
Why would it be in our interest to allow people sharing confidential information on the public forums is the question you should be trying to answer.
I would imagine there a number of things involved. It could affect the ongoing issue, cause bias or otherwise degrade the opportunity for proper considered action to be taken. They may not want the admin team brought into disrepute without being able to properly respond. They may just not want people bashing the admins on the forums for a slight, imagined or real.
As for what I would do, well you play to the rules of the game. If you go into a pause you contact an admin if it is required you do so at the immediate time, you prepare your evidence and present it. If the time period for this extends past that of the pause limit and the other team enforces a play on you must put it aside until such a time as a proper discussion can take place. It may distract you but a cat could walk into your room take a shit on the floor and walk away again. Shit happens and you have to deal with it. Without knowing the cause of the dispute I cannot comment on whether it is reasonable that you are getting worked up about having to stop mid game to speak to the admin but really anything that may have happened can be resolved post match except in rare circumstances which would normally be related to misunderstanding of the rules in place currently.
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