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Created 23rd March 2009 @ 17:37
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Lol i will have to see for my self then, i have some methods topsecret to uncover cheaters.
Not joking… :)
in the end the only way of beeing sure about it is to try cheating too :)
hope no one takes this too srs loool
i keep my vote on the admins decision.
Like it or not…
Team ETF2L 3 – 0 Team HAX
^^
gj
Watching the demo is pointless since unless you have lots of experience you wont notice anything. Everyone can spot a hacker if he instantly headshots everyone around him. However most hacks are more sophisticated and will allow people to set delay and fov to the bot so that the shots are not instant and 180 turn headshots wont happen.
The reason why the admins wont show the evidence to the guy who is banned (or anyone for that matter) is simple.
Admin: You were constantly aiming at players trough walls
Cheater: k…
*cheater buys new tf2 account*
*cheater start playing in etf2l again and does not pre-aim at people anymore*
RaCio you missed the point really, you just don’t want to even imagin that etf2l might be wrong cause they have some demos. Here are their demos and nobody can’t see any cheat in it cause flo had 36 points at the end of the map, he sucked really hard missing 6 shots on a medic for example in the winneh’s log he speaks about the scene in which flo kills a medic, it took 6 shots to flo to kill him so please common, what is the use of an aimbot if you can do better with a real aim?
Whats the point of using an aimbot in a pcw to be the last of your team ? Aimbot is used to kill people and Flo just sucked.
If you are not only convinced by these arguments (based on pure logic…) just whatch the demo what are you afraid of?
If etf2l admins have any other proof why can’t they allow us to see it?
You can also watch the demo slowlier, fact is flo miss half of his shots and when you use an aimbot its clearly not only to put only one strong shot every 10 minutes of game. (again thats just logic.)
Yes, because programming an aimbot to hit every single shot wouldnt be suspicious, not at all. The point is an aimbot could be used, subtley, to make sure that crucial shots can be made and it doesnt necessarily have to be done straight away. Those 6 shots could be a case of him missing 5 times and then saying “screw it” and using a bot for the 6th, the fact that in that case he wouldn’t have needed to actually possess the skills to make that shot doesn’t make it any less cheating than if he had used it from the off. Racio didn’t miss the point, he hit the nail right on the head so please stop spouting off your “pure logic”.
Oh, and an aimbot would improve a really crappy player to a crappy player even if used subtley so I think “look how bad he is” is a really terrible counter-argument.
Lol watch the demo guy really, in this moment Flo shots the medic 3 times, the medic doesn’t die. So what aimbot fail?
So aimbot off even when he hits the medic lol. Seriously watch it guy he first miss 1 or 2 hits, then he manages to hit the medic 3 times, medic doesn’t die, then a 4th shot and he dies. Aimbot off during the only 3 times he hits the medic? lol
“So aimbot off even when he hits the medic lol. Seriously watch it guy he first miss 1 or 2 hits, then he manage to hit the medic 3 times, medic doesn’t die, then a 4th shot and he dies. Aimbot off during the only 3 times he hits the medic? lol”
Meh, shouldn’t really be getting in this discussion…
What I was trying to say is that you can´t prove anything with the demo. How does him killing a medic in 4 shots prove him innocent? Isn´t it possible that he just got those shots without using the aimbot? Or maybe he used it on the last shot because he wanted to get the job done? You don´t know, and you can´t know.
I didn’t saw the demo yet. but let’s assume Flo never cheated… Why everyone only talks about flo?
1) Everyone else who got banned cheated, but they know Flo never cheated, so they don’t say a thing about their own ban (because they know they’re guilty) and they don’t want Flo to be banned. Justice.
or
2) They just wan’t to distract the community, point them in the wrong direction, so nobody talks about their bans…
Missed anything?
Typhon your argument is completely retarded. Who in their right mind is gonna aimbot a pcw and get more points than the medic? Clearly it would be smarter to play badly, but to make important kills from time to time.
How do we know he wasn’t missing on purpose, just so you could attempt to make this futile argument for when he got caught?
13 if we don’t speak about the other things it can also be cause we don’t have anything to complain about lol.
Gj admins you banned to ppl for cheating in ffa, a dozen of accounts not even registered on etf2l <= i really don’t care about all that.
Racio again, this is a proof because in this demo we see Flo missing most of his shots and oh well it seems that it was also this precise scene which was used as a proof by etf2l admins to show Flo cheated…
What i mean is that Flo was banned from etf2l because of this demo and most precisely this action in which we can see him missing half of his shots. I really don’t see the aimbot plz show me what makes you 100% Flo cheats in this demo.
“Typhon your argument is completely retarded. Who in their right mind is gonna aimbot a pcw and get more points than the medic? Clearly it would be smarter to play badly, but to make important kills from time to time.”
So every time a scout kills a medic he gets banned from etf2l? I can show you many two shots of medics what makes you say there is no aimbot? The move of the mouth, oh great common look Flo’s moves during this match this is all about reflex shots missing their aim.
“Er, this is a topic about Flo, 13?”
Every discussion about the bans always ended in an attempt to unban Flo… You can see that in the comments of the post where the bans were announced or here…
(Oh, and I’m not saying Flo cheated, don’t have evidence to say yes or no. I was just pointing a fact)
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