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*Warning, long post about rules clarification for low div teams, nothing too exciting here*

So we just played out final match in our Div : http://etf2l.org/matches/37649/

We have a question about the scores as in our lowly div the top 4 teams are very tight and the outcome of this match has a lot of impact.

We played Gravelpit

The general rules state :
All A/D and Payload maps are played in a best of 3 format. This means, that the first team that wins two rounds wins the map. A 2:1 result after 3 rounds counts as a Golden Cap win.

HL rules state :
Three points will be awarded for each map won. No points are given for a loss. In case of a draw a decider round will be played, where 2 points will be given for a win and 1 point for a loss (see general rules 4.1.3 and 4.5.3).

I understand that the HL rules supersede the General rules, but the 4-2 score doesn’t add up in that case.

We lost the first map, so that would be 0-3, we won the second one so it is then 3-3 and a draw so a decider needs to be played, as I read the rules above this means that when we won that match in general rules we won outright so final points should be 6-0 to us .. the HL rules state that we get 2 for a win and one for a loss so the results should be 1-2 2-1 2-1 ??.. meaning we score 5 and our opponents score 4 … which isn’t what the numbers say and also would seem somewhat churlish. Or should they be 0-3, 3-0, 2-1 which means again 5-4.!?

Anyone want to explain what I’m missing and why I’m an idiot.

Quoted from Lucky_Pierre

*Warning, long post about rules clarification for low div teams, nothing too exciting here*

So we just played out final match in our Div : http://etf2l.org/matches/37649/

We have a question about the scores as in our lowly div the top 4 teams are very tight and the outcome of this match has a lot of impact.

We played Gravelpit

The general rules state :
All A/D and Payload maps are played in a best of 3 format. This means, that the first team that wins two rounds wins the map. A 2:1 result after 3 rounds counts as a Golden Cap win.

HL rules state :
Three points will be awarded for each map won. No points are given for a loss. In case of a draw a decider round will be played, where 2 points will be given for a win and 1 point for a loss (see general rules 4.1.3 and 4.5.3).

I understand that the HL rules supersede the General rules, but the 4-2 score doesn’t add up in that case.

We lost the first map, so that would be 0-3, we won the second one so it is then 3-3 and a draw so a decider needs to be played, as I read the rules above this means that when we won that match in general rules we won outright so final points should be 6-0 to us .. the HL rules state that we get 2 for a win and one for a loss so the results should be 1-2 2-1 2-1 ??.. meaning we score 5 and our opponents score 4 … which isn’t what the numbers say and also would seem somewhat churlish. Or should they be 0-3, 3-0, 2-1 which means again 5-4.!?

Anyone want to explain what I’m missing and why I’m an idiot.

General Rules are much clearer. The HL rules are actually quite unclear, because it’s catering for all game modes. In the case of gravelpit it’s played bo3, if you win 2-0/lose 0-2 then the points are 6-0/0-6. If you win 2-1/lose 1-2 then the points are 4-2/2-4.

In particular in your match, both teams won 1 round each. A 3rd round is played to decide who gets 4 points and who gets 2 points. Lemon Highlander won the 3rd round, so they get 4 points and Os Navegadores gets 2 points.

This is explained in the general rule 4.3.3:

– Results must be submitted as two maps (the same map)
– If you played two rounds and the match was won 2-0, enter the result as ’2-0′as result for each map
– If you played three rounds and the match was won 2-1, submit ‘2-1′ as the score for each map and tick the golden cap box for both maps

Basically, all attack/defence style maps are played as best of three in highlander with the same setup. Every match is worth 6 points total.
If one team wins the first two rounds, it gets all 6 points (6-0).
If each team wins one round, a third round has to be played and the 6 points are distributed between the 3 rounds, making each round worth 2 points and the result 4-2 or 2-4.

Sorry for the mess, the rules pages need a proper cleanup.

I think where the confusion is coming from here is that each round is treated as a ‘map played’, which doesn’t make sense.

Each week, bar one, has had one map for each match with each map following the ‘Best of Three’ rule. Yet a 2:1 win is counted as a draw + a golden cap win.

Surely it shouldn’t matter whether you play 2 or 3 rounds, the winner would be the team who’s won 2 rounds come the end of the match, leaving the only points options either 6-0 or 0-6? Why are points being awarded for winning a single round in a match?