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Don’t hate me for it, everytime people are banned there are people making forum posts about the bans, the teams involved or anything else about it, and this time it’s my turn.

I’ve also talked about this to Huhy on IRC, but I don’t feel like this should be a point that shouldn’t be discussed with the rest of the community, to see what the general opinion is.

I’m (obviously) speaking for Dakka Prime here when I say that the new bans and the consequences have just ruined some teams’ season. There obviously were teams who had a previously banned player in their team and were well aware of it, but in certain cases, nobody but the player himself knows.

Rather than giving the entire team a default loss on all of the games the banned person has participated in, I think they should be given a choice whether to accept the default losses or to replay the games they would get defaulted for.

I know this might be causing problems in teams’ schedules, but in the case of teams who basically got screwed over by one player (only in this scenario, when it’s obviously no Boomeh-wise story, soz Boomeh :3) it might actually be a chance to show what they’re worth.

I want to emphasize again that I’m only for this scenario in cases where it’s obvious that a team wasn’t aware of it.

I have no clue (yet) on how it could be arranged so that these games don’t have to be played too late after the season, but I think that that’s what this thread for, opinions, options etc…

Inb4 epic rage from the usual trolls.

Quoted from Dr Icecream

I want to emphasize again that I’m only for this scenario in cases where it’s obvious that a team wasn’t aware of it.

That’s a very debatable point; obviously a team would deny being aware of a cheater in their team as that would get the entire team a ban. Not saying that’s the case here, it’s just not a feasible solution.

If teams are allowed to reschedule and replay their games when a cheater in their team is banned, you’re creating a very exploitable system where teams could just use cheaters as it’s not a big deal for the results of their games anyway.

Quoted from Spike Himself

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That’s a very debatable point; obviously a team would deny being aware of a cheater in their team as that would get the entire team a ban. Not saying that’s the case here, it’s just not a feasible solution.

If teams are allowed to reschedule and replay their games when a cheater in their team is banned, you’re creating a very exploitable system where teams could just use cheaters as it’s not a big deal for the results of their games anyway.

Well, not cheaters, because technically, that’s a different story, but when somebody has been banned before and is making a return with a second account, it can be reconsidered. I mean, when the team knows that it’s a multi-accounter, obviously other people will know as well (I think the Boomeh story, once again, proved this). Can’t say much else for the rest about it, I guess. I think it’s mainly a matter of a gut feeling.

When it’s about hacking etc, I think it’s debatable on whether the normal procedure should still be followed or whether they should consider having to replay the games as well. After all, one only gets banned when it’s proven and once he “has been spat on on” the frontpage. So, as long as it’s done correctly, I don’t think exploiting would happen that much.

Of course there is also the matter of the number of games that have to be replayed, this could also be taken in consideration to allow the games to be replayed, it’d be nutty to replay an entire season, so you could put a limit on that.

I’m not worrying about Dakka Prime, Kitas and I already had a chat yesterday night, in which I ensured him that we won’t drop Dakka Prime in any case, and they’re indeed pretty sure to get seeded in a higher division next season, seeing as they practically roll every team from div 6 to div 4. But it’s a point that might be worth looking at for the near future, because obviously that Exteel guy is going to try and come back and screw other teams over again.

Quoted from Hildreth

The guy cheated the league and he cheated you. Rules are rules, sadly you’ll have to live with his actions, hopefully you’ll never speak to the retard again for what he has done.

I’d rather travel to Lithuania to punch him in the face, but I’ll just spend the money on keeping the community running I guess

stop the qq. happened to us last season. we actually finished all games. had no penalties or warnings. played every game IN time… and one player got doubleacc ban – all results droped. so? what did we do ? signed up for next season. its div5.. who cares – sign up next season for div4 and show what you are capable off

Agree with doks, Being able to replay matches because of a situation like this, would just cause more problems than anything else. It is really unlucky though.

Quoted from rytis

the fact is, that you can’t possibly know that a cheater got a new account.

yes you can :]

Quoted from Dr Icecream

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Enlighten us please, because I’m not aware of how you could find out.

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