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Maps and Unlocks OPEN Survey
Created 21st February 2011 @ 03:48
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nice to see all the cheese getting hate
Quoted from Waebi
An official survey solves this in the respect that it is official and people cannot really complain afterwards – if you do not go and vote for people to be in the Parliament (Democracy ftw), then you’re yourself to blame.
The problem with those kinds of polls would be that people would naturally vote what is in their favour. So soldiers vote against scout weapons and scouts against soldier weapons. And theres the part that wants to ban unlocks that have been allowed for 2 years because thats “easier”.
Quoted from RaCio
[…]The problem with those kinds of polls would be that people would naturally vote what is in their favour. So soldiers vote against scout weapons and scouts against soldier weapons.
I voted against everything. Vanilla+medlocks ftw. Maybe those weapons shouldn’t have been allowed in the first place. This is my gripe with the current etf2l administration, or at least the vocal part, its filled with players that can hardly be called decent at this game but think they know everything and the reasons behind everybody’s voting.
Last edited by Koeitje,
I think wanting to ban the equalizer speaks against your understanding of the game rather then against mine.
You missed the point a bit. A core part of the argument for vanilla is that allowing more good weapons (sandvich and deadringer in dunc’s example) would make things to complex. So its a ruleset based upon opinions about unlocks (or it should be). So in theory it should not stop people from correctly rating unlocks.
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Quoted from RaCio
I think wanting to ban the equalizer speaks against your understanding of the game rather then against mine.
There are actually 2 good reasons to ban the equalizer, if you can’t figure those out yourself you are the one that is clearly in the wrong position. One should not be admin to the biggest league if you don’t even have a basic understanding of the influence of certain weapons on the game. People might disagree about banning it, but the arguments in favor of banning it are very solid.
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Yup, Bill just asked me what the arguments in favor of banning are. Just proved my point about the current administration.
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Quoted from Koeitje
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There are actually 2 good reasons to ban the equalizer, if you can’t figure those out yourself you are the one that is clearly in the wrong position. One should not be admin to the biggest league if you don’t even have a basic understanding of the influence of certain weapons on the game. People might disagree about banning it, but the arguments in favor of banning it are very solid.
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Yup, Bill just asked me what the arguments in favor of banning are. Just proved my point about the current administration.
what ARE they then?
there are as many arguments for it as there are against if (if you actually give them), claiming you’re right because… because why, really? is idiotic
Quoted from Ghent
Allow all unlocks.
NEIN
Last edited by Dummy,
Quoted from Dummy
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what ARE they then?
there are as many arguments for it as there are against if (if you actually give them), claiming you’re right because… because why, really? is idiotic
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NEIN
Roll-out and positioning. Lowers the skill-ceiling of the soldier and the medic as well. Why not give the demo the ability to run to mid on badlands as quick as the current roll-out allows and with the same health loss? That’s what the equalizer does.
Last edited by Koeitje,
Vote what you don’t want to play against, not what is best for TF2.
I’ll vote all unlocks to be banned, except the classes I play. Don’t want anyone else to get anything!!
What I was trying to say, it the poll is quite pointless, and also can be manipulated quite easily. But I guess it could be quite interesting to see the views on some of the rarer unlocks.
Quoted from Koeitje
Yup, Bill just asked me what the arguments in favor of banning are. Just proved my point about the current administration.
I’m all pro-vanilla but wtf.. why would anyone want to ban the equalizer? It’s the only decent unlock (besides kritz, arguably) valve have released..
Quoted from Koeitje
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Roll-out and positioning. Lowers the skill-ceiling of the soldier and the medic as well. Why not give the demo the ability to run to mid on badlands as quick as the current roll-out allows and with the same health loss? That’s what the equalizer does.
because the demo rollout is much harder, he is more important than a soldier, it doesn’t matter nearly as much as to when he gets to mid and when the soldier does, because it gives the soldier a positive SOMETHING, he was bad compared to the other classes before
Quoted from Koeitje
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There are actually 2 good reasons to ban the equalizer, if you can’t figure those out yourself you are the one that is clearly in the wrong position. One should not be admin to the biggest league if you don’t even have a basic understanding of the influence of certain weapons on the game. People might disagree about banning it, but the arguments in favor of banning it are very solid.
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Yup, Bill just asked me what the arguments in favor of banning are. Just proved my point about the current administration.
And you’re not the only one who thinks so!
[22:42] OXELLIOT: your acting really bad
[22:43] OXELLIOT: this is not good froman headadmin
[22:57] OXELLIOT: and that was so ridiculous to speak with them and wait 22h00 to speak with me
[22:58] OXELLIOT: you are jsut ridiculous racio
[22:58] OXELLIOT: im sure you have a really small penis ahhahah
Please make me head admin now. Just look at my team history. I deserve it!
Last edited by ashkan,
Quoted from Dummy
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because the demo rollout is much harder, he is more important than a soldier, it doesn’t matter nearly as much as to when he gets to mid and when the soldier does, because it gives the soldier a positive SOMETHING, he was bad compared to the other classes before
It actually matters a lot. Its the difference between exiting the house at the same time the enemy soldiers do, or being forced to deal with soldiers already in the air bombing your face. Soldier never has been a bad class. The only tweak I’d like to see for the soldier is the reduction of self damage . You can try it. Tonight, during your pcws, have your soldiers wait half a second in the spawn before moving out. See how that goes.
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Quoted from Koeitje
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It actually matters a lot. Its the difference between exiting the house at the same time the enemy soldiers do, or being forced to deal with soldiers already in the air bombing your face. Soldier never has been a bad class. The only tweak I’d like to see for the soldier is the reduction of self damage . You can try it. Tonight, during your pcws, have your soldiers wait half a second in the spawn before moving out. See how that goes.
I don’t know what map you have in mind when saying this, but on badlands to take a random one, the equalizing soldier isn’t faster on mid than he would be if he’d just jump. Still needs to be with the medic to get the heals. Unless you think it’s a good idea to run on mid with 40 hp while the enemy demo is stickying it up!
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