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Quoted from Spike Himself

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Which is equally selfish as dropping from the league and potentially taking away points other teams had gotten by defeating you!

There’s nothing selfish about that. Taking away the points is fair to the remaining teams in the division.

Quoted from Spike Himself

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Also can people please stop being so thick as to think every team that is below your own level only plays for fun and not so much to win?

Re-read my post please, I said they play for fun first and winning second. I didn’t say they only play for fun.

And I’m sure I’m far from the only one when I say I will not stay with a failing team to finish the season just for the sake of finishing the season. I don’t mind losing as long as I’m having fun, but there’s absolutely no fun in that and it’s time wasted I could spend having fun with a different team.

Quoted from Spike Himself

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Which is equally selfish as dropping from the league and potentially taking away points other teams had gotten by defeating you!

I’m not gonna continue doing something I despise just so you can keep your points. In fact, continuing when you know you’re gonna lose all matches is unfair in itself since you’re effectively defaulting every match to the enemy, putting people who dropped points to you at a disadvantage.

this is such a stupid discussion

But people pick them up, there are a few expections but this is in the case of them being dicks in most cases. Of course if you know that they dropped for a lemitamte reason you might consider picking one or two of them up, but people need to get it in their head that is a big thing to fold a team and 50 teams.

All you have to do is not sign up in the first place, if you are not stable or struggle through to the end of the season, use mercs if you have to, I am telling you now that LTG would allow them if it meant that they would have dropped instead.

Here’s a scenario. I’m gonna use actual teams in my actual division for realism sakes, this is the only reason.

.:ne:.BLU drew a map with a team that SFF beat 6-0

Let’s say the team we drew with, who SFF beat on both maps, were our bestest friends in the whole of the world and they had nothing to play for this season now.

If they were to drop, our draw would be cancelled out, thus effectively giving us the dropped points back. So we have a quiet word with our buddies and they quietly drop, we get the draw wiped out and end the season with 2 more points than we should have had, pushing another team into 3rd or 4th.

We benefit, the other team are punished and yet it wasn’t their fault, we just exploited the system to our advantage. Fair? No, ofc not.

Is not being able to play officials for 2 weeks fair if the team fell apart around you? Maybe not, but lots of things in life aren’t fair.

Quoted from Monkeh

Here’s a scenario. I’m gonna use actual teams in my actual division for realism sakes, this is the only reason.

.:ne:.BLU drew a map with a team that SFF beat 6-0

Let’s say the team we drew with, who SFF beat on both maps, were our bestest friends in the whole of the world and they had nothing to play for this season now.

If they were to drop, our draw would be cancelled out, thus effectively giving us the dropped points back. So we have a quiet word with our buddies and they quietly drop, we get the draw wiped out and end the season with 2 more points than we should have had, pushing another team into 3rd or 4th.

We benefit, the other team are punished and yet it wasn’t their fault, we just exploited the system to our advantage. Fair? No, ofc not.

Is not being able to play officials for 2 weeks fair if the team fell apart around you? Maybe not, but lots of things in life aren’t fair.

And if they had kept playing they’d be giving everybody else 6 points except you, putting you 3 points down. Goes both ways.

“Lots of things in life aren’t fair” -> goes both ways.

Your example is true Monkeh, that would not be fair.
But then look at rule 1.5:

1.5 Dropped teams’ results will be deleted if they play less than 75%

So if a team has nothing to play for anymore, near the end of a season, result’s won’t get removed, effectively negating the situation you described.

There are always pros and cons, but i believe dropping results according to this rule is the best way.

Also i might add: your scenario is just highly unlikely. for every one time that will happen, there will be 100 others where teams fold for other reasons. (if not more). Of course, if admins find out about such an agreement, the teams involved will be punished. But finding out such a thing would be hard if not impossible.