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Missed deadlines?

Created 30th June 2010 @ 18:22

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kaidus

7
WiK?

I’ve seen many teams take wildcards only to play their matches 2 days later as that’s what the rules state is required, yet I see others postponing their games a week past the deadline without a wildcard anywhere in sight. Can etf2l either abolish any percieved scheduling rules or start enforcing them, as right now it’s quite a mess tbh. It’s not really that bigger deal, but it seems unfair that teams are put at a disadvantage by playing their games in less than favourable circumstances and/or taking wildcards they might need later, whilst others just break the rules and get away with both wildcards in tact and play their games in less than favourable circumstances.


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eoN^

Whats with the random posts being deleted :< at least make a -delete- thingy and the moderators name so we know who to troll… Fucking boring as hell now that we cant just assume it was gayzor. Lets blame d2m

RaCio

GoT²

So to get this straight, you think that teams should not be able to move their match if they both teams agree?

SnowiE

-9w-
-9m-

The number one priority is to get the games played. This means finding a date where both teams agree. Wildcards are to used when one team doesn’t agree to re-schedule. Sometimes we’re lenient on clans playing games outside the official weeks, but it really depends how far they take it. Clans playing games over a week after they are supposed to be played risk getting a minor warning for it. This is to stop clans from causing difficulties for other clans, by playing their games extremely late. This concertinas all the fixtures into the final few weeks, when clans have less chance to fit games in (because we need to have all games played by a certain point to fit in playoffs etc. before the next competition).

octochris

(0v0)

I think the ideal system should be:

Wildcards should be used when one team must postpone the match but the other team does not agree (or the team can’t be bothered to ask the other team). If both teams agree on changing the date there should be a certain grace period for playing the match, maybe 3-4 days as long as the team is not constantly doing it. Wildcards should be allowed until 1hr before playing time.

From previous experience with this sort of thing from last season, I think this is a reasonable idea.

baerbel

trick17
trick17

Quoted from octochris

I think the ideal system should be:

Wildcards should be used when one team must postpone the match but the other team does not agree (or the team can’t be bothered to ask the other team). If both teams agree on changing the date there should be a certain grace period for playing the match, maybe 3-4 days as long as the team is not constantly doing it. Wildcards should be allowed until 1hr before playing time.

From previous experience with this sort of thing from last season, I think this is a reasonable idea.

this is exactly how we handle it atm

AnroliF

Quoted from baerbel

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this is exactly how we handle it atm

baerbel said all

kaidus

7
WiK?

Well the thing that annoys me is that, in my view at least, division 1 and to an extent division 2 should be considered spectator divisions. Whereas divisions 3-6 (with the very occasional exception in division 3) appeal only specifically to the teams involved and their friends, division 1 and a lot of the time division 2 can be seen to draw attention from the general viewing public. When we find ourselves midway through week 3 of a seven week season and 11 out of 24 (now 21 due to folds) teams have yet to play a single game – this strikes me as lazy and generally very detrimental to the scene.

There’s being flexible and then there’s just permitting people to not bother. As far as I’m concerned when you play at the top flight of the game there is an expectation on you to represent the game, and I point blank refuse to believe that were the rules stricter (at least for these divisions, and there can be no argument here as time and time again division 1, with the regular inclusion of division 2, have argued for their own ruleset seperate from lower divisions) then these games would still be played to a good standard.

Moreover to your point(s), why not simply expand the playing schedule to encompass a three week period rather than 2 week? I compeltley disagree with that, but going back to my initial post; why is it that this is entirely permitted but not legislated?


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Metroplex.

http://www.esl.eu/eu/ems/news/128397/ESL-Major-Series-VII-1-000-Euro-Poll-Current-standings/

kaidus

7
WiK?

01:20 – baerbel: i dont see it
01:20 – baerbel: if teams wont bother on their own i wont play parent and make them play the games
01:21 – baerbel: hardly a valid argument

Seriously? Off the top of my head:

Auotmatically give both teams minor warnings for unplayed/unwildcarded fixtures beyond the deadline where neither team is at specific fault. If the match isn’t played within a week beyond the deadline then default lose the game for both teams. If one team is being spasticated then the other team recieves a default win.

I’m sure a team of admins given time to debate and consider the issue could come up with something sufficient :/.

To put this into some context, in ESEA in America teams are required to play two games a week and rescheduling beyond that week is only permitted in extreme circumstances (such as updates breaking their client). This is followed without much problem by 50 teams with only two admins. Their scene is piss poor compared to ours, so why can they muster it and not us?


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octochris

(0v0)

Quoted from baerbel

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this is exactly how we handle it atm

It was supposed to be an ironic post.

My humour is lost on you people :(

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