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No… Mumble has the capabilitys to be ALOT higher quality than Ventrilo you just have to set up properly :XX I have mine on lowest quality and its fine though :S

i have my mumble on the highest quality and it sounds like fucking ass
i’m not exactly going to use pickups to judge the sound quality of mumble vs. ventrilo seeing as apparently everyone who plays pickups plugs a pair of headphones into their mic jack and talks through the left earpiece like it’s 2001 and they can’t afford real mics, but from vents with competent people with normal mics, i’d choose vent for quality every single time.

there’s no reason not to, people are just resistant to change for the sake of it.

there isn’t that much between the two though, apart from the difference in delay. anyone know a fix for that in vent?

there’s no reason not to, people are just resistant to change for the sake of it.

+1, though some are also just simply misinformed. (People who think Mumble crashes a lot or has more delay or worse sound quality)

As far as I’m informed, it’s much more difficult to set up a mumble server.

And also, it’s simple not as well-developed yet as ventrilo is.

For example, in the multiplay ventrilo we have the TF2 server info set as comments so you can simply right click on the channel on ventrilo and click “Copy Comment”. You can’t do that in Mumble because it doesn’t allow certain characters.

Another example is when you do captain picking, you can’t put you class in your comment, because you don’t have that option in Mumble. You could change your name though, but again it doesn’t allow certain characters, so you can’t call yourself “F2 (soldier)” etc.

You can’t put a password on a channel. Well, I’m not 100% sure about this, but when I right click on a channel I can’t find any options to set a password.

And in general there’s just too many weird things going on. On a server where I am SuperUser, if I right click on a channel and click “change description”, type “test” and click Send, then I just get disconnected from the server?

I think the point is that from a corporate point of view, Mumble simply isn’t a finished product yet.

Ventrilo on the other hand simply works. It has been used for years, it is stable and nothing unexpected ever happens. Players from other games that join the pickups are also more likely to know ventrilo and have it installed already.

though some are also just simply misinformed. (People who think Mumble crashes a lot or has more delay or worse sound quality)

Within the last two weeks I was playing a pcw, and suddenly two players’ Mumble crashed which also made their TF2 minimize. There is no doubt that Mumble is still more unstable than Ventrilo.

See: “a lot”

One time isn’t a lot. Mumble has become more stable over time.

But I see your concern, if absolute stability is a priority over usability and audio quality/delay.

The delay in vent is noticeable, when I was at i36 with our mix team we were all sat along a row but will ofc still used a voice server.

When we used vent there was a noticeable pause between me transmitting and me hearing myself on the persons next to me PC, this is at lan remember. So we switched to mumble instead and the delay was almost non-existent. You can test this urself by going to audio output and looping back via the server. The delay you will hear is what others will hear as long as they have a similar ping ofc.

Here is a good vid showing the delay http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMfF36NvoJc

But even despite the lag problems, I F2 is correct in saying the vent interface is far more user friendly than mumble. So is a case of the pros outweigh the cons.

You could also argue that weather in game it actually makes a difference if a scout gets behind and creeps up on ur medic and two shots him, the delay would not really of made too much difference your team should have been more aware of rouge scouts.

Here is a good vid showing the delay http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMfF36NvoJc

Shouldnt let that guy say his name :X

vent rocks ass!