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Swap your demo for a heavy and any half decent team will rape you on middle.

Also since you seem to be new to 6v6, check out some demos. See what the classes do in higher skilled games and learn from it. I remember my first clan, we didn’t even know basic stuff like jumping to middle. There’s a lot to learn.

Swap your demo for a heavy and any half decent team will rape you on middle.

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aye end0, we did that a few times and iirc it worked out quite well.
From my POV, the main reason why the heavy isnt used anymore is cause people actually developed better aim and the game became a bit faster since the release: The Heavy is fucking slow and goes down rather fast when the enemy has any idea of how to shoot… High DPS wont help there anymore.

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Heavy is a great situational class. If you don’t give the enemy a chance to focus fire him, he won’t go down easily.

Often he takes too much heals and walks too slow though. It’s a decent option on some maps like badlands or turbine

More like well and turbine, but really only on well.

Having played heavy a, lot my opinion is that heavy is a slight disadvantage. You can’t use heavy all the time, like on mid cap it’s best to be able to make do with 2 soldiers rather than the other way around. So if you’re even going to consider replacing one soldier with a heavy, then it’s also crucial he knows how to play soldier good enough to be a soldier you can rely on.

Geten has experienced these advantages with heavy:
– You can win uber vs uber duels easier. You can dps something crazy in close quarters and even kill off soldiers before the medic can target the wounded soldier. For this reason he can be awesome in attacking and defending last cap. A lot of times, we’ve ubered before them but we’ve still won due to that a soldier can’t take down a fully charged heavy.
-Medic has a good bodyguard. With the minigun spinning, the medic can cover behind him while he tears ass.
– Blow up stickies. Yeah. That’s really handy at times.
– Close quarters in general. Once you get him close and fully healed he can do good damage, forcing the enemies to have their attention on him while other classes jump on them. I’ve also found that enemies underestimate the heavy and put themselves in situations where they loose a player. One advantage of playing an unconvential lineup.

Disadvantages:
– Mobility, obviously. He’s fat and can’t get to the front fast enough at times. And if it’s something that increases in higher level gameplay then that’s speed. Enemies can dodge him easily and he can’t dodge them. You’ll also have to bear in mind while his hp is huge, he can’t dodge spam so having that hp doesn’t have to mean he’ll always live longer. And speaking of mobility, he can’t move when he fires, and since he’s so slow he’ll need to fight in order to keep off enemies and to keep his medic alive. In a game where the sniper can stay basically untouchable at distances, a fully charged shot can bring him down.
– His attack isn’t splash. That makes shooting around corners impossible, while the soldier and demoman can spam and the scout attack with huge damage from nowhere.

So if a team got soldiers that don’t happend to be exceptional heavies, then stick to two soldiers. And it’s also important that the team can support a heavy, which they in many cases don’t. A mix of soldier and heavy ought to be optional, though.

And he’s obviously great at supplying sandviches if you ever wanna treat your team to a picnic.