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Quoted from ash

Not like you can agree on maps beforehand?

You are missing the point here.

UGC team has a swiftwater official that week. ETF2L team wants to practice that week to get ready for the ETF2L season.

ETF2L team couldn’t find any other ETF2L team so they have to scrim the UGC team. The UGC team says: We would like to play SWIFTWATER at least ONCE or we WON’T SCRIM WITH YOU.

So you have to scrim once with the map you won’t play at all. Situation like that happens just because one team is a ETF2L team while the other one is a UGC team.

Capiché?

Quoted from yak

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All we did when that happened was have our map played first and then play their ugc map after, seemed to work.

But seriously, this and scrim.tf shouldn’t be competing, why not work together?

Why do people fail to understand that things like this are developed long before revealing, and it shouldn’t stop them that another website emerged while they were still working on theirs. It’s also understandable if any of the parts don’t want the merger :s

TF2Pickup and TF2Center, spreadsheet mixes, IRC pugs and Steam Group mixes? Why don’t they all work together, hm?

Because they’re all different and cater for different demographics?

The fact is that scrim.tf and scrim.me are precisely the same service, and you’ll end up competing for teams to use one or the other, or end up with a frustrating system in which you post on both.

As much as I sympathise with CHERRY’s point that things get developed beforehand, the scrim.me team’s just been unlucky here, and I don’t think there’s any use in complicating things further just because you’ve been beaten to a reveal.

If there’s any chance of a merger then that would obviously be the best situation. If not, I don’t think there’s any sense in having two identical systems.

Of course, if they reveal they’ve got something new or different up their sleeve then I’ll renege, but I don’t think there’s anything they’ve got that isn’t already covered by scrim.tf.

I currently have no intention of using any of these sites – they’re overhead with no significant benefits. What might work is a Steam bot that would matchmake scrims for you hours in advance.

Quoted from fraac

I currently have no intention of using any of these sites – they’re overhead with no significant benefits. What might work is a Steam bot that would matchmake scrims for you hours in advance.

What significant benefit does that offer?

In the long run the one of them is already dead, and it’s the matter time when the other takes over the whole space, so I don’t see anything wrong in releasing the second, it’s not like people will split between them equally.

That’s a fair point – but wouldn’t it just be a more efficient and, vitally, less fragmented + confusing system just to merge the two, or pick the best? We’ve no doubt got some talented people here, surely it’s best to try and get them to work together rather than have some sort of battle royale between them to see which one falters first?

For everyone asking why two sites for scrims exist:
We started development long before we knew that another site like this existed.
I am pretty sure the developers of the other site were in the same situation.

Coincidence.

Quoted from Chowder

For everyone asking why two sites for scrims exist:
We started development long before we knew that another site like this existed.
I am pretty sure the developers of the other site were in the same situation.

Coincidence.

That’s not really the question here though – what’s going to happen? You seem to be pretty bullish about it, and I’d hope the answer isn’t just a war of attrition until someone’s hard work goes down the drain.