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http://youtu.be/TlJVybsi7Z4

I had to share this with you guys, it’s just fucked up :D

Quoted from Casual

frag clip thread or at least the movies subforum…

Also maybe the engi turned left just as you stabbed?

You ‘hitting’ the wall is just a prediction error, the server (which is slightly ‘off’) saw you (barely) hit him. Legit stab.

I don’t see how that in any way could’ve been a backstab, server being slighty delayed or not..
Spy has been fucked for a long time IMO

Quoted from TWEEKARN\

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaKAkdpMJBA

I get alot of those crazy stabs, but this one I linked to is just fucked up, how in the hell can I backstab someone if I hit the wall and you can hear the sound.

lolwut?
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/612758774699714570/BCFAD0C0376AD43626DEC3268215264D6F65D8D6/

Quoted from Casual

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Melee attacks are traced with a cube ‘hull’ and checked for intersections with other player hulls (melee does not care for hitboxes).
game/shared/tf/tf_weaponbase_melee.cpp

These hulls are axis aligned (so at a 45° angle your melee range is ‘longer’).

He attacks, prediction error occurs on the client (hits the wall). Server registers as a hit to the engineer.

A few ms before that the engineer turned to the left.

All conditions for a backstab are now fulfilled.

These things happen…

Thanks captain, now you can fly away

Quoted from Casual

[…]

Melee attacks are traced with a cube ‘hull’ and checked for intersections with other player hulls (melee does not care for hitboxes).
game/shared/tf/tf_weaponbase_melee.cpp

These hulls are axis aligned (so at a 45° angle your melee range is ‘longer’).

He attacks, prediction error occurs on the client (hits the wall). Server registers as a hit to the engineer.

A few ms before that the engineer turned to the left.

All conditions for a backstab are now fulfilled.

These things happen…

Well fuck me, that is proper retarded.. I see what You mean about the engineer turning to his side and everything, but now I’m just asking myself the question; Valve really couldn’t find a better way for melee to work? I mean that shit right there is just blatantly broken?

Quoted from Kvux

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Well fuck me, that is proper retarded.. I see what You mean about the engineer turning to his side and everything, but now I’m just asking myself the question; Valve really couldn’t find a better way for melee to work? I mean that shit right there is just blatantly broken?

tbh the way this works is pretty fucking clever from a programming/design perspective

Quoted from Spike Himself

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tbh the way this works is pretty fucking clever from a programming/design perspective

50k lines of code not working properly or 300k lines of code that does its job properly – you choose. Or maybe it’s not that simple?