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FAO the Vanillatv guys and etf2l admins
Created 10th October 2012 @ 17:50
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Quoted from Tapley ❤
We need to get you a girlfriend Monkeh
Not sure the current one would approve, but go right ahead!
Quoted from beta
I read your posts, as I am sure the majority of people did. They are just voicing a different opinion.
I am going to put it bluntly for you, you have two options already available, if those don’t suit, please feel free to investigate and implement this idea yourself.
Thanks
btw, there’s no need to be butt hurt about this request. It has nothing to do with opinions on certain things, I was wondering if it was possible, and if it was if anyone else would be interested.
I’m not criticising or being a dick, so why the attitude I don’t know. The reason I made the joke comment about no one reading my posts was because this reply:
Quoted from beta
To make it clear, this isn’t possible as we no longer cast from in server, we have used STV for some time to allow for us to use Mumble.
Thanks
…misses the point entirely of my previous posts.
Sorry for trying to think of something that would increase my personal enjoyment of vanillatv’s output and then bringing the subject up for discussion. I shall refrain in future.
On the other hand, I wonder if it’s possible to cast from a servers again, set up delayed relay bot for mumble to sync with STV, put 120 seconds delay on stream and so on? It’s kinda way too complicated, but STV bugs will be gone and STV/Mumble option will be still here.
I think that’s the problem envy, whatever we can come up with is going to be a lot more hassle and effort for very little in the way of gain.
I’m leaving this deceased equine so it will be flogged no longer.
Quoted from Monkeh
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btw, there’s no need to be butt hurt about this request. It has nothing to do with opinions on certain things, I was wondering if it was possible, and if it was if anyone else would be interested.
I’m not criticising or being a dick, so why the attitude I don’t know. The reason I made the joke comment about no one reading my posts was because this reply:
[…]…misses the point entirely of my previous posts.
Sorry for trying to think of something that would increase my personal enjoyment of vanillatv’s output and then bringing the subject up for discussion. I shall refrain in future.
Hi,
Disappointed to do this, but I wanted to make it clear.
I don’t like people suggesting I am not reading posts or ignoring them. Apologies if you took this as me being angry but that’s the way I read it and I am quite blunt sometimes due to not being afraid to speak my mind.
I always welcome suggestions, I am quite certain that is the same for all at VTV. Unfortunately, what your asking we can’t accomodate. As I said, welcome for you to try and investigate this but right now we don’t have the time or man power to assist this. I still think the only way to do this would be to go back to oldschool methods of delays via a shoutcast server or something.
If there’s anything else, feel free to come and speak to me directly. I think I am pretty approachable about most stuff, so anything else let me know,
Thanks,
Mike
Quoted from envy
On the other hand, I wonder if it’s possible to cast from a servers again, set up delayed relay bot for mumble to sync with STV, put 120 seconds delay on stream and so on? It’s kinda way too complicated, but STV bugs will be gone and STV/Mumble option will be still here.
its possible, but we would have to rework our hud, because it uses a lot of custom graphics and fonts and stuff, which work in STV (since sv_pure doesnt apply there), but will not work on the server.
I also dont enjoy the fact that if we were to do that, audience interaction becomes much harder, since anything you say takes 90 seconds to be responded to, and then another 90 seconds before you have a responce from the casters that. it really kills any sort of chatter between the casters and people tuning in.
Quoted from envy
On the other hand, I wonder if it’s possible to cast from a servers again, set up delayed relay bot for mumble to sync with STV, put 120 seconds delay on stream and so on? It’s kinda way too complicated, but STV bugs will be gone and STV/Mumble option will be still here.
Having the casters on server and a delayed bot on Mumble will mess up the stream during pauses. Just like with the team comms.
Also, mumble relay bots have no logins and therefore no special permissions. This really limits the stuff we can do on mumble.
You also need an extra person to babysit the relaybots, make sure they’re unmuted, still online and still working properly.
If only we had a configurable delay per relay ;)
Oh, I see. Then it really not worth powder and shot.
Instead of trying to fix the ‘solution’ until it works, why not have another look at the actual problem? As I see it, monkeh’s problem is –
Something happens in game > the commentators on STV talk about it > monkeh wasn’t watching that bit and can’t get to it in time to watch it happening.
So either
a) sourceTV needs to have a cameraman so everyone sees what the commentators are watching, or faster methods of finding action (this bit is probably only possible for valve to fix)
b) the commentators need to be more clear about what part of the action they’re following before it happens, so monkeh knows where to watch to follow what they’re talking about. Perhaps using a radio commentary style of narration (assume the viewer can’t actually see the action) so it’s immediately obvious who they’re watching the whole time
c) monkeh needs to get some gamesense so he knows where the action’s about to happen ;)
Quoted from SnowiE
b) the commentators need to be more clear about what part of the action they’re following before it happens, so monkeh knows where to watch to follow what they’re talking about. Perhaps using a radio commentary style of narration (assume the viewer can’t actually see the action) so it’s immediately obvious who they’re watching the whole time
I feel as if it would create a lower quality product for both the people on stream, and people watching the vods.
Quoted from beta
feel free to come and speak to me directly. I think I am pretty approachable about most stuff, so anything else let me know,
Just wanted to mention that I did exactly this at i46 after the grand final to let you know what a good job I thought you’d done over that weekend :D
It’s all cool, I didn’t realise what I was asking for, as a tech retard, would be difficult/impossible, in my head a relay on a relay with some magic command for set_delay_5 or something would have been amazingly simples…Doh.
@ Snowie:
a) STV has a ‘directed’ mode right now, the fact it’s poo is a problem though.
b) Nice idea
c) never gonna happen
A quick mention of, “I’m watching Kaidus right now as he looks to push choke…” or something similar, would be great. I’ve heard it before but not that often.
Quoted from Monkeh
It would have been awesome to hear the casters get excited about some action and then find said action on the stv BEFORE it happens so I can watch it unfold.
Am I the only one who think this doesnt sound fun at all and cant see why anyone would want to have all the action spoiled?
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