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well in ESL you can actually use mercs. It’s just that you get punished with a bit of penalty points for that.

Quoted from Hildreth

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Actually me and my team don’t care what the ruleset is we just want to play the game and help it grow.

When the fuck were you made league admin?

Quoted from WARHURYEAH

1. Allow loads of unlocks.
2. New players come in, old stale players go out.
3. ETF2L booms in popularity.
4. Everyone is happy again.

yeah ruin the game for people who have been playing it for the last three years cracking idea my old bean.

Quoted from randa

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yeah ruin the game for people who have been playing it for the last three years cracking idea my old bean.

Yeah, they can leave and we get loads more new players :D Fantastic idea!

Quoted from Ripple

what is wrong with vanilla and if both teams agree they can do cinnamon. don’t see a problem there.

Reverse the setup and I’m you’ll see the problem.

Its also a solution that will keep the community split even in the same divisions. Just having either of them is better.

Anyway, lets stay ontopic.

Still playing the ESL playoff in div 2

http://www.esl.eu/eu/#/eu/tf2/6on6/league/season7div2playoffs/rankings/

fun times like doing the whole season again for us lol.

If you read other gaming sites where they discuss tf2 being free most people say, that these unlocks and hats is really what ruins the game for them.

I think that if you want to attract actual skilled players (not pubbers) from other competitive scenes we really need to introduce vanilla + med locks or something similar.

In fact if we want the scene to get bigger, we need the same rules in every league.

Quoted from agron

Didnt sign up to etf2l because of the ruleset.
Dropped out of ESL because of losing to Taimou’s team.

stop losing ubers!