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Quoted from rtan

You should remove obscure and replace it with turbine for prem/div1/2/3.

Quoted from rtan

You should remove obscure and replace it with turbine for prem/div1/whatever div GoT<3 is in.

Anyway… polls like this where the majority gets it's way are inherently bad for the higher divisions, because the number of players in those divisions is smaller (derp). It's not as if there aren't players in div4/5/6 that don't want to play Turbine, but I doubt there are a lot of players in those divisions who even played that map (Croissant likewise, but that looks like 5cp so it must be good right :/ ). If you'd average the votes for each division you'd end up with a weighted poll. That would do more justice to the teams in higher divisions. Obviously I'm taking into consideration that you'd rather listen to prem players than div6 players, but hey…

Also, why are we even letting people vote who aren't even playing in this league?

Quoted from atmo

I hope the comments on Pledge’s VTF2 article are taken into consideration also.

I was just gonna say this, not going to spend another hour making a wall of text with fancy words.

Besides I don’t really see the focus of discussion of this topic? Is it about the map pool size, is it about specific maps, is it about the way this map pool was composed, is it about the assignment of this map pool to specific divisions, etc? We already decided that the community pick the maps, so how can individuals in this topic change anything now, by complaining about map specifics? Something needs to change at the core, and I think the vanillatf2 discussion already went way more into detail, no need to split up the discussion now.