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[S11] Map Pool Feedback Thread!

Created 12th January 2012 @ 18:53

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MM

take out freight put in foundry. we should support official maps. foundry is awesome

Kenny

v. existence

what the point to do foundry decider map?explain, i can’t understand :((((
First of all, in mappool we don’t have foundry, so no experience on this map.
Then, in irc NOBODY play this shit map and again no experience.
Why shit map?
look at bazzilion , same situation. map only for scouts and snipers.this maps for 10×10 not 6×6, how to controll this map?

and i think better to play 4-5 maps instead of 6.

Koeitje

AUTOBOTS

o, I guess we all kind agree that Foundry for play-off thing is 100% retarded. Freight was already removed from the pool a while back because of obvious issues with the map that haven’t been addressed by Valve (since it’s an official map now, it’s their job right?) yet.

May I suggest the following:

Remove freight, replace with Foundry (or Croissant for all I care) to give that map a proper chance. And go for the old play-off style.

Koeitje

AUTOBOTS

Quoted from Wolf :D

freight > snakewater gtfo haters

Thanks for your division 5 insight.

Strange to see so many votes for freight, but if that is what the majority would like to play i dont care.

Also I laugh at all the haters, democracy is a bitch?

Quoted from Koeitje

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Thanks for your division 5 insight.

Right back at yah!

ijswezel

swimp

i voted for freight and gravelpit because i like those maps.

i didn’t vote for badlands and granary because i do not like those maps.

i think this map pool is a good map pool

having personal preference is a wonderful thing


Last edited by ijswezel,

Quoted from ijswezel

i voted for freight and gravelpit because i like those maps.

i didn’t vote for badlands and granary because i do not like those maps.

i think this map pool is a good map pool

having personal preference is a wonderful thing

NOYOURENOTALLOWEDTOLIKEWHATIDONTLIKE

HARGLABRAGLBGRLAH

hoppi

TIDS

good old maps

freshmeatt

‹Con›

Torden’s not gonna like it if TviQ remains as a scout in YYT with this mappool.

randa

foundry out of decider now..

droso

o/

Since the “foundry rule” is pretty “weird”, here are my suggestions to replace it.

Suggestion 1:

team 1 eliminates map A
team 2 eliminates map B
team 2 eliminates map C
team 1 eliminates map D

Team 1 picks map E
Team 2 picks map F

Coinflip between map C and D (since clearly neither team 1 or 2 wants to play map A and B as they were eliminated first).

Apparently, this would require a huge admin workload though…

Suggestion 2:

For prem, I think you could reward the best standing from the regular season aswell.

As we all know,
Game 1: 4th vs 3rd
Game 2: winner of Game1 vs 2nd
Game 3: winner of Game2 vs 1st

For the first game: 3rd gets to eliminate 2 maps while 4th only gets one map to eliminate.
4th eliminates map A
3rd eliminates map B
3rd eliminates map C

4th picks map D
5th picks map E

Map F is decider.

Same goes for Game 2: 2nd eliminates 2 maps, winner of game 1 eliminates only 1
Game 3: 1st eliminates 2 maps, winner of game 2 eliminates only 1

For the other divisions:
Since those teams will be on the same standings by the end of the division, you need a new rule to decide which gets the map elimination advantage (ie: won maps; if team A won more maps than team B, they get to pick 2 maps)


Last edited by droso,

djc

d2f~

if the intention behind putting foundry as a playoff map is to get it played and tested by Good Teams, then surely it would be easier (and less contentious and more logical and much less impactful) to put the map into the regular season map pool.

ESEA made a similar move with their playoff system, by putting cp_standin_b5 (make important note of the beta part) as the map for the Upper Bracket finals for both Open and Intermediate…. but then you realize that at least people actually played standin during the regular season and will have actually practiced it at some point. nobody is going to practice foundry during the regular season because there are six other maps that they need to deal with already. and if nobody has actually played foundry at any point during the season and then suddenly the playoffs roll around and WHOOPS!!! gotta play this map that nobody plays and that nobody has played and that could be crucially important to the results of the season.

the decision makes even less sense when you consider that foundry didn’t even reach 50% in either of the polls…. while constantly stressing this point that ~The Community Has Spoken~ about their map pool choices, you then turn around and shit on the community’s blabbering tongue by telling them to play a map that a majority of them didn’t want in the pool in the first place.

Shotgun

Quoted from atmo

Who are these people voting for freight? Why are none of them actually commenting saying they are happy? I’m one of these low-div players allegedly voting for freight but I don’t want that shit in either, nor do I know anyone around my level that wanted it.

I’m div 5 and voted for turbine and viaduct instead of freight/gravel. Freight seems fine on lobbies though! :)

droso

o/

Suggestion 3:

For playoffs, make the map pool 7 maps (including Foundry) and old elimination system.

That way, teams can actually decide if they want to play/eliminate Foundry as a decider.

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